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Taz

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Message 223 of 230 (391736)
03-27-2007 2:56 AM

Reply to: Message 212 by crashfrog
03-05-2007 1:20 PM

crashfrog writes:

If conservatives are so broken up about the prospect of becoming unintended fathers, why are they so resolute in blocking FDA approval of male birth control?

Mind explaining this a little bit more? I think I have an excuse to not know what you're talking about since I'm not a conservative...

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Message 224 of 230 (391737)
03-27-2007 3:00 AM

Reply to: Message 217 by ringo
03-05-2007 1:59 PM

Re: Answering the detractors

Ringo writes:

Much more independent than a fetus. An infant can be adopted by a different parent. A fetus can not be transplanted to a new host.

I'm an optimistic science fiction fan. I dream of one day where this is possible...

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Message 226 of 230 (391796)
03-27-2007 1:05 PM

Reply to: Message 225 by ringo
03-27-2007 4:01 AM

Re: Answering the detractors

Ringo writes:

Yeah. I wouldn't rule it out. In my lifetime, heart transplants have gone from unheard-of to (almost) routine.

Not only that, in a few years we may start to see heart transplants of artificially grown hearts. They are already transplanting artificially grown bladders to people and are trying to improve the procedure to include more vital organs.

But it would only be one more option. You can't force a woman to have a transplant. (I would think that having a fetus transplanted in would be a more attractive option than having one transplanted out.)

For the sake of argument, let us suppose that one day it will be possible to transplant out a fetus in such an easy and fast manner that it is prefered over current abortion techniques.

But the possibility of being able to remove and transplant a fetus into another woman (or man...) presents a particular dilemma... actually, several dilemmas.

So far, the woman have the right to remove the unborn fetus from her body. What I am wondering is does the right extend to having it killed as well?

Say that transplanting fetuses become a typical surgical procedure and fundamentalists like myself volunteer on masse to take in those fetuses. What if there are women who would rather have the fetus killed than give it up to another person? Does the right of abortion extend to actively killing the fetus?

The reason I am thinking about this, of course, is because while I am pro-choice I also consider the fetus a human being. I consider human life begins at the point of conception. There's a long explanation burried somewhere underneath all these debates.

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Message 228 of 230 (392012)
03-28-2007 3:53 PM

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03-27-2007 2:01 PM

Re: Answering the detractors

Ringo writes:

As soon as the fetus can be (hypothetically) removed alive and sustained to birth, it is no longer (technically) a part of her body.

Somehow, I have a feeling that when indeed fetuses can be transplanted out and and in to people's bodies some people will argue their right to property of the said fetuses.