|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Try to keep hatred out of our Constitution. | |||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Sir
Well, you can call it intolerance, hatred, and fear, but we've had a lot of homosexuals visit this community, and one that stayed for over a year just to visit. I don't think they've felt hated or feared. Obviously, love for us does not include allowing any and all behavior that might be practiced. Homosexuals are not the only ones that have limits on their behavior when they stay here; everyone does. That's so in every society, and because ours happens to include limits on sexualbehavior, for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, doesn't mean that those particular limits are motivated by hatred and fear. has your village ever banned any heterosexual for their sexual choice? Also: 1) you should not be using negative examples to support a bias. 2) Did you asked said people if they felt hatred by the people of your village,or that they feared anything from anyone there? Edited by randy feagley, : abe wrong past tense forgot one word left n out of anyone sorry.RAF
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
that's so in every society, and because ours happens to include limits on sexual behavior, for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, doesn't mean that those particular limits are motivated by hatred and fear. truthlover I have some more questions. 1) What forms sexual behaviour do you restrict for heterosexuals? 2) How do you police and punish violators? 3) Do you really want this to be the first time, in the history of the US, that an ammendment that restricts a group(a small group) of americans freedom is added to the constitution( Try to remember what happened to sodomy laws because texas pulled this one). 4) Lets say it happens will this stop people from being homosexual, practicing their sexual desires. Edited by randy feagley, : abe two words reversed sorry. raf
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Faith;
Well, TL, I'm very tempted to answer your opponents for you, but I'd really rather see your answer. I certainly agree with you on this one, though I'm hardly on your side on many things you've said. Yes it would be nice ,let the person who lives there answer the question.The answer from you would be uninformed and hyperbolic and would probably be off topic, since the questions relates to the rights that ALL Americans granted under the constitution share and no matter what!
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
There seems to be some confusion ,by some, on the ability of said
marriage ammendment could pass. It has to pass by 2/3+ in both house and senate Thats 67+ senators, 291+ reps, a presidential sig. Then you need 3/4+ of the states or 38+ states there is a seven year limit to be ratified because of the 27th amendment. for more go too Constitutional Amendments - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net There are 55 rep. , 44 dem., 1 ind., in the senate 232rep., 202 dem., 1 ind., in the house 22 dem. governed states 28 rep. governed states to see the breakdown better go to 2006 Political Party Breakdown by State - re: Traditional Sections and Regions so far this does not look good for bush. To add too this; with such low poll numbers the house dems are already planning what they are going to do after the election; for more on that please see http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../06/AR2006050601336_pf.html Personal bias,hatred should not even be allowed near the constitution!
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Hi
That was Tampa and bubba the love sponge.St. Pete was terry Schiavo. Two things 1)the US constitution and the Fla constitution are two different subjects 2) I would never use florida as good blue print Still I'm trying to figure how same-sex marriages can make people want to restrict freedom for a group they disagree with. Maybe you can explain it to me? Does not using the constitution to inhibit the pursuit of happiness and liberty violate the constitution? Then has that not desecrated that same said document? Does this then allow the next move to be an ammendment making homosexuality illegal
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Thank you for answering me:
I don't mean to be obtuse, but I don't know what you're referring to here. you said
That's so in every society, and because ours happens to include limits on sexual behavior, for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, doesn't mean that those particular limits are motivated by hatred and fear. 'IN EVERY SOCIETY' that is what I refer to as a negative.You are using the wrongs of others to justify your wrongs
No, didn't have to. One stayed here for longer than a year, and I knew her pretty well. Another thanked us for the way we welcomed and treated her. So, the answer is no you just assume that they felt that way and that makes you feel good
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Again thanks for the reply
Then I have no disagreement with you on the first part
f this matters, we believe what Christians have taught for centuries, that God wants sex restricted to marriage between one man and one wife. We treat violations the same way we treat all violations. We talk to people. Those who will not repent have to live elsewhere. This part i have a problem with. You want a traditional christian marriage to be the norm in the US .You say this is from god a few things 4hat. 1)Marriage pre dates yours or the hebrews tradition 2) Which tradition exodus or how about before 1970. 3) Yes it matters. But my questiion was what sexual behaviour do you restrict for heterosexuals? 40 Your in Tn. right maybe You should read the constitution of the state you reside in . there a clause just for that. Other that that thanks for letting me see your perspective. You seem to be happy with the path you choose.Since ,to me, it seems that I mostly agree with you that ther should be no marriage ammendment!
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Hi brennakimi:
Sorry for that, republican controlled housesenategovernor, democraticlycontrolled state supreme court.This is what you get!
They have this crazy idea that somehow other people being gay affects them. they thing they have a right to not be offended. they think the presence of gay people with make their children gay (it won't). some think that the presence of people who don't follow god's laws in their country means that they aren't doing their job and will be sent to hell for not having enough jesus in their constitution. Does christianity cause paranoia!
technically i believe that you can amend the constitution with anything. we could, theoretically, amend the constitution to strike For your last point I do not know enough about that. down the first amendment. Now we were taught that the first ten are called the bill of rights and could not be touched( I went to school in Urbana Ill about a mile from UI)
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. The peambl.Gee it says We the people . Are not homosexuals people of the US
|
|||||||||||||||||||
alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4318 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
hi:
Haven't been to Urbana since 1977. Your probably right on the bill of rights that was the "60, and with all the problems from vietnam...? Okay I'm going out on a limb here. There will be no ammendment it is a another ploy by bush co. to get attention from Iraq. The support among fundies is know slipping at an alarming( to bush) rate. You know this is still hard. 2 years ago I tried but try doing this with only 30 minutes.
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024