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Author Topic:   'Some still living' disproves literal truth of the bible
PaulK
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Message 263 of 479 (562849)
06-02-2010 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by glowby
05-31-2010 9:32 PM


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What confuses me is this: Why would the authors, translators, and re-translators of the Bible keep the passage that you cited?
By the time that the Gospels were written - by mainstream dates - the prophecy had not OBVIOUSLY failed. Mark may even have been written before the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. The Gospel of Luke does, however, significantly change some of the surrounding text, apparently to make the prophecy a better fit to events. The author of Matthew largely copied the text of Mark (or - less likely - it was the other way around). That covers the authors.
Re-translation is not much of an issue with NT books. For the translators we simply need them to honestly do their job, instead of acting like apologists. The only likely timeframe for changes, then is around the 2nd Century AD, and I suspect that between them, the three synoptic Gospels had sufficient circulation by then that it would take a concerted effort to change the text.

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PaulK
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Message 269 of 479 (562862)
06-02-2010 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by jaywill
06-02-2010 8:40 AM


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Please point out to me the passages in the synoptics which were the efforts to re-write the text:
The portion of my post that you quote gives my reasons explaining why the text in question was not rewritten. The question, therefore, is a complete non-sequitur. I will be happy to address any genuine questions about my post - but not to go off-topic addressing questions which do not even have a basis in what I have written.

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Message 272 of 479 (562896)
06-02-2010 11:03 AM
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06-02-2010 10:43 AM


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I understood that. I thought you were implying that the re-writing occured after then.
Obviously you did not understand that I was offering an explanation of why it was not rewritten. Because if you did you could not think that I was implying that it HAD been rewritten - let alone that I believed that other parts of the Gospels had been rewritten.
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Okay. Then could you tell me exactly how your comment relates to the OP
I was answering Glowby's question as to why the text was not rewritten. That was why I quoted his question in my post. Which is at least about the text that this topic is discussed - unlike your questions.

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