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Message 25 of 311 (162031)
11-21-2004 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by TheClashFan
11-19-2004 11:33 PM


I just dont know.
The Big Bang possibly was the collision of other dimentions known as membranes. One membrane colliding into another resulting in a manifestation of the physical universe. Time is a function of Space and vice versa. Time does not exist prior to T=0, so postulating a "before" is moot. The Big Bang is humanities attempt to trace back the events that occured which perpeturated the stretching of space/time and the formation of the elements/gas/stars/sentient life.
The events postulated are continually being confirmed by observations made by the hubble telescope and the disciplines of science. Although it is difficult to imagine the universe being a singularity
it is likewise difficult to imagine what your own eye looks like without the aid of a mirror. Humans are reduced to perceiving reality through the physical laws of nature. If something is outside of humans ability to percieve it then how would we ever know it exist? This seems to be the main argument I get from many Theist. And although one can always say "but how do YOU know" I contend that Occams razor is reason enough not to introduce duality into our current state of understanding. Simply saying I dont know will suffice for me.

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Message 42 of 311 (162353)
11-22-2004 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by SoulSlay
11-22-2004 12:08 PM


read a science book please
SoulSlay where have you read that there was nothing? And you say you heard that all the matter in the universe was in one small grouping which exploded. And you wish to know where the idea came from? Why? The questions you ask are tedious to answer. You would have to spend some time reading , studying and making an honest attempt to understand. Appearing on a debate board and asking for us to digest 50 years of astonomy and phyiscs is a tall order. Since this subject of the BigBang has been discussed, explained and debated in so many numerous threads on this board, why is it you can not look at those? If you seriously wanted to find answers to your questions you would of by now have some inkling of the subject you are curious about. There has been at least 10 others who have asked those same questions and have received patient, honest answers from very knowlegable people on this board. I ask that you first explore those and if you still "Dont get it" then ask informed questions. If you can not do the needed foot work then you must not really want to know the answers to your questions. This is just my honest opinion others may be prepared to debate you on the bigbang.

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Message 44 of 311 (162375)
11-22-2004 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by NosyNed
11-22-2004 1:38 PM


Re: The First Three Minutes
Your still getting a lump of coal from Santa Ned. To late in the game to play Mr. Nice. I am thinking soulslay is a jasonchin incarnation. Although I may be wrong.

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Message 103 of 311 (185939)
02-16-2005 4:29 PM


Well seems like this time before the big bang thread is unraveling. Regardless of what one 'believes' the answer is beyond the scope of human knowlege.(for now) Did God create the universe? Is the universe fully deterministic? Did life spring from non life without the aid of a creator? Did the universe always exist and the Bang simply an extension of that existance? Is Evolution false? And now we are discussing poo pooing someones beliefs? IMO if one enters a discussion board on Evolution verses Creation they should be prepared to thicken they're hide a little. What would be the point if we all agreed and thought the same things. Where is the fun in that?

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 105 of 311 (185944)
02-16-2005 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by crashfrog
02-16-2005 4:34 PM


Why the higher rates of divorce amoung believers? cuz they aint really true believers of course. Why less atheist in prison? cuz Satan is keeping them free to spread the word there is no God.

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