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jar
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Message 36 of 311 (162134)
11-21-2004 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by TheClashFan
11-21-2004 8:43 PM


WRONG!!!!!!!!
Don't even think that for a moment. You just haven't lived long enough to get all the underlying material needed to get to that step. Come on, you're doing great so far. The problem is you're trying to tackle stuff some folk here have spent twenty or thirty years beating on. They had a head start on you.
It's all you parents fault. If they'd been smart enough to see that you were born twenty years earlier...

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 49 of 311 (163628)
11-28-2004 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by TheLiteralist
11-28-2004 12:00 AM


Re: Things in common
Welcome to EvC.You might want to check out http://EvC Forum: Genesis: is it to be taken literally?

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jar
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Message 51 of 311 (163630)
11-28-2004 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by TheLiteralist
11-28-2004 12:21 AM


Re: Things in common
Nothing in particular. We've had lots of discussions on whether or not Genesis can be taken literally. Look them over when you get a chance.

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jar
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Message 101 of 311 (185928)
02-16-2005 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by mihkel4397
02-16-2005 3:38 PM


Re: No time "before" the Big Bang.
There again, you believe too much. Before you know something, it is necessary to find out for yourself. Borrowed opinions are not reliable.
So post the calculations along with the data they are based upon already. Quit schmoozing and give us the schpeel! Make like a chochem and tokhis oyfin tish.

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jar
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Message 130 of 311 (396984)
04-23-2007 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Reserve
04-23-2007 7:14 PM


Re: Big Bang = Big Contradiction?
In order for some thing to happen (like the big bang) you need equations.
Sorry but that is just nonsense and only makes Christians look stupid. Is that your goal?
Things happen whether there are equations to explain it or not.
Only two possible conclusions exist.
1) An eternal self sustaining being exists which designed the equations and the whole system we observe today or...
2) Nothing exists.
Yet again with trying to make Christians look stupid?
Equations are nothing more than our human created shorthand that we use to try to help explain what happened.
Your first premise is just plain nonsense, and the second is like unto it.

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jar
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Message 173 of 311 (410252)
07-13-2007 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by ICANT
07-13-2007 11:15 PM


Re: Nothing Before the Big Bang
Right now we don't know. But it is also totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter what was before the Big Bang even if that question makes any sense.
BUT...
it is possible that one day we may get some glimpses of what was before the Big Bang.
See this National Geographic article.
The point is that regardless, this Universe, the one we live in, did not exist before the Big Bang.
The Universe we live in, the rules that govern it, all begin shortly after the Big Bang. Gradually, we are learning more and more about this Universe and its rules and one day we may even learn something about what came before.
But the idea that "God did it" tells us nothing, is pretty much worthless and is just a waste of time and energy that could be put to better use.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 291 of 311 (414218)
08-03-2007 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by ICANT
08-03-2007 12:19 PM


Summary including nonsense and irrelevancies.
When you add thoughts like
You decide, your decision determines your destiny.
which is not only simply totally fallacious, but also irrelevant and silly, all you do is diminish the value of anything you post as well as make God look like a petulant little child.
Your posited "God did it" tells us nothing, has no relevance to the issue of "Before the Big Bang" and is totally content free. In addition, it is no more supported than
quote:
When on high the heaven had not been named,
Firm ground below had not been called by name,
When primordial Apsu, their begetter,
And Mummu-Tiamat, she who bore them all,
Their waters mingled as a single body,
No reed hut had sprung forth, no marshland had appeared,
None of the gods had been brought into being,
And none bore a name, and no destinies determined--
Then it was that the gods were formed in the midst of heaven.
Lahmu and Lahamu were brought forth, by name they were called.

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