jar, I like Jerry and Pat, but kind of hear what your saying, or something like that(Prosperity gospel?). I see Jerry and Pat though fighting the race, overcomers, too me they are great men of God like Oral Roberts, etc...If you have nothin else you can just listen to Oral give his commentary of the New Testament. I see these men as Great Men of God. Have you ever listen to Jerry preach the gospel. When he took over the reigns of the 700 club from Jim Baker(PTL), he didn't profit from it, but turned it over to Pat Robertson, like have you ever listened to the 700 club, etc...
P.S. Like what do you think of Mother Theresa, do you feel she was fighting the fight too, loving the unlovable, we all are fighting the fight too, in our own way, think Jesus was saying to love as he loved, not as the world loved, and he would call you his friend, so I'd have to disagree he would get drunk with the boys, cause that would be wallowing in the mire, think the verse was more about loving the brethren, not loving the world, cause in revelations it says to let the filthy be filthy still, and let the righteous be righteous still, and God will reward accordingly, but agree he does search the heart, so kind of hear what your saying, he does want us to love one another, your neighbor, but not as the world loves, just my take on it, he loves the widow, the orphan, the unlovable, etc...If you ever get a chance, think you'd enjoy reading a book, A Man Called Norman, its likely not in print, but you'd likely enjoy it, cause I kinda agree with its all about the agapa love, having a servants heart, to be about what he is about, rather than trying to get even, instead of having a spirit of forgiveness, etc...
http://www.orm.cc/new_testament.html
This message has been edited by whatever, 05-23-2004 08:12 PM