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robinrohan
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Message 218 of 329 (173208)
01-02-2005 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Shaz
01-02-2005 10:28 PM


moved from another topic
Hitler and Christianity:
This is an excerpt from "Hitler: A Study in Tyranny" by Alan Bullock:
"Hitler had been brought up as a Catholic and was impressed by the organization and power of the Church. For the Protestant clergy he felt only contempt: 'They are insignifiant little people, submissive as dogs . . . they have neither a religion they can take seriously nor a great position to defend like Rome.'
It was 'the great position' of the Church he respected; toward its teaching he showed the sharpest hostility. In Hitler's eyes Christianity was a religion fit only for slaves; he detested its ethics in particular. Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest."
Quote from Hitler: "Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
"From political considerations he restrained his anti-clericalism, seeing clearly the dangers of strengthening the Church by persecution. Once the war was over, he promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches . . ." (219)
No, Hitler was not a Christian.
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robinrohan
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Message 220 of 329 (173219)
01-03-2005 12:20 AM
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01-02-2005 11:54 PM


Re: moved from another topic
Sorry, shaz. It had nothing to do with your post. I don't think the "general reply" button is working. I was talking to somebody else on another thread and it was suggested the discussion should be moved here.

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robinrohan
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Message 221 of 329 (173224)
01-03-2005 12:40 AM
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01-02-2005 11:43 PM


Re: moved from another topic
However, you might make a case for Hitler believing in a sort of "life force" idea. He certainly seemed to think that he was a man on a historical mission which was associated with "blood" (race).
He was certainly a "Darwinian" in the crude sense of the word.

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robinrohan
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Message 230 of 329 (173513)
01-03-2005 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by jar
01-02-2005 5:59 PM


Re: What is actually necessary to be a Christian
Jar writes:
So Hitler not only believed he was a Christian he professed that he was a Christian
There's nothing in these quotes that show Hitler was a Christian. You could claim he was a theist from these quotes.

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robinrohan
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Message 232 of 329 (173518)
01-03-2005 5:24 PM
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01-03-2005 5:21 PM


Re: What is actually necessary to be a Christian
You might want to take a look at my message #218.

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robinrohan
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Message 234 of 329 (173524)
01-03-2005 5:37 PM
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01-03-2005 5:34 PM


Re: What is actually necessary to be a Christian
My message also has quotes from Hitler himself.

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