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Faith 
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Message 41 of 710 (799931)
02-17-2017 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by jar
02-17-2017 8:58 PM


Oh don't be nave. A lot of those "failures" are the effect of concerted obstructionist efforts by his political enemies, to the point of breaking the law, to keep him from getting his plans accomplished. If the country isn't quite yet the third world mafia style government it's trying to become, we may yet see him pull success out of the monster's jaws.

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Message 47 of 710 (799939)
02-18-2017 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by NoNukes
02-18-2017 3:11 AM


Re: Keeper
Glad you liked it. Of course I don't really expect the stuff that makes me cry to make a leftist cry, though it should.
Have you seen the interviews with Norman Dodd? Do you also dismiss them as lies?

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Message 52 of 710 (799951)
02-18-2017 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Percy
02-18-2017 8:21 AM


Rasmussen found 55%. I believe Rasmussen, you believe Gallup. Those are the facts.

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Faith 
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Message 56 of 710 (799955)
02-18-2017 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Percy
02-18-2017 3:34 PM


As JonF said, I believe it because I like it; that is, my impression of how Trump is doing is a lot higher than Gallup's polled people, and my impression of the favorable comments on conservative talk shows is too-- forget anything left, a bunch of crybabies, flamethrowers and assassins, what a crowd -- and I don't trust ANYTHING in the "mainstream" including polls. Evidence, schmevidence, that can be faked too, very easily with polls.
Here I am sitting in the Coffee House, enjoying my macchiato, I'm happy to chat and compare notes but demanding evidence belongs somewhere else. IMHO.
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Faith 
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Message 59 of 710 (799958)
02-18-2017 4:11 PM
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02-18-2017 3:59 PM


No sweetie, not "everybody," I'm only too miserably aware of the Dishonorable Opposition I mentioned, who hate him and want him dead, and misrepresent everything he says and treat him with disgusting disrespect and word their "news" reports with denigrating language that the haters swallow uncritically. My side hated Obama with at least as much fervor but overall we let the American traditions work, we didn't try to kill him, we didn't try to burn down the country, we more or less politely let his supporters have their day. I merely have the impression that Trump hasn't lost favor as the poll suggests he has. And when I keep hearing that Twitter has been manipulated to show only negative responses to his tweets, sorry, I see that objectivity is gone gone gone from the American scene. The Left is plotting a coup or an assassination as we speak. Meanwhile Trump has been doing a great job considering the saboteurs attacking his every move.
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Faith 
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Message 60 of 710 (799959)
02-18-2017 4:28 PM


Oh and those rowdy Townhall discussions. I wonder how many were taken in by that piece of Leftist theater. Unfortunately that sort of thing works with a lot of people. Golly gosh, maybe people really did like Obamacare. Well, the Left did, who knows why since it forced businesses to cut back on employees or hire only part-time, since it costs too much for the average person. It was astonishing to see those meetings with all that leftist style screaming and disruption being passed off as normal or even conservative opinion. The Left is just plotting and plotting and plotting, it's all designed to make things LOOK a certain way, make it look bad for trump, make it seem that most people really don't approve of his agenda. Media reports carry this lying crap, infiltrators are paid to create scenes and burn things down. And Trump is blamed for all of it. This is not America. Don't try to get me to believe your polls.
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Message 61 of 710 (799960)
02-18-2017 4:42 PM
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02-18-2017 4:11 PM


Oh SEE those "current estimates," what a JOKE. What a sick joke. What a pack of lies and you believe it. Couldn't be that you believe it because you LIKE it, could it? Because you're a Trump hater maybe? Eh? Naa, that kind of reasoning only applies to us Trump supporters.

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Faith 
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Message 63 of 710 (799962)
02-18-2017 4:47 PM


So he has a press conference where he tells it like it is. That's something we really really do like about Trump, he tells it like it is. He may get some facts wrong, who cares, the man knows what matters and he says it, he doesn't spin things. So he tells the press they're a bunch of lying saboteurs, and all they can do is whine that he was attacking the Press, the Holy Press. Isn't he worried he might be causing the people to distrust the Press? Aren't THEY worried that that's what THEY are doing with their lies and their snark? Kick the bums out, kick them all out. The ones in the Congressional Swamp too.

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Message 64 of 710 (799963)
02-18-2017 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Percy
02-18-2017 4:47 PM


Nicely spun, Leftie. I'm sure you'll get some accolades for that.

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Message 65 of 710 (799964)
02-18-2017 4:53 PM


Oh and one other thing -- back on the Verboten Presidency thread I see a perfectly normal comment by Miller is of course spun into a Hitlerian command -- it was nothing but a statement of confidence that the TRUE powers of the Presidency will be recognized, no, they have to turn it into a command that it MUST be understood that way.
Oh how I hate the lying Left.

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Faith 
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Message 71 of 710 (799972)
02-18-2017 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by PaulK
02-18-2017 5:05 PM


Please explain how the Right intends to stop people questioning the powers of the Presidency.
The idea is that the President legitimately has those powers by an honest assessment of the laws. Other Presidents have used the same powers. They belong to the Presidency. That's what the Constitution says.
The court is wrong, the people who talk about the separation of powers happen to be wrong in these particular cases. But they won't recognize it, they won't acknowledge it.
However, I'll agree that the statement was far too optimistic. His opponents will never give in on any such true statement; they have to manufacture fake Constitutional interpretations, fake fake fake fake fake.

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Faith 
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Message 72 of 710 (799973)
02-18-2017 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Percy
02-18-2017 5:25 PM


I'm aware of that "evidence." I consider it spin, not truth.

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Faith 
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Message 74 of 710 (799975)
02-18-2017 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by dwise1
02-18-2017 5:29 PM


No racial slurs you liar, hardly a ripple in the pond compared to the violence and the violent rhetoric against Trump. You live on some other planet.
You're the batshit crazy one,along with all the other lefties here. You know nothing. Obama has already gone way too far toward destroying the nation. That's what Trump is trying to undo because he is the one who really does care about America. You've got to be blind to think Obama cares one whit about America. Open borders? As many illegal aliens as he can cram into the country, aliens they lyingly refer to as "immigrants? Give them the perks of citizens? -- the spin is SO disgusting, what lying trash intended to destroy the nation. As many Muslim refugees as he can bring in to kill us when they've accumulated the power? Apologizing for America to our enemies? Sending back the Churchill bust, which celebrates a hero of Western Civilizaqtion. He HATES Western Civlilzation, he hates America. Destroying the economy with Obamacare? Driving businesses to other countries with trade deals that undermine American interests? Oh and how about their expensive vacations out of the taxpayers' pockets? I wouldn't even mention that except I just saw a headline about how the security to protect Trump's family is costing so much. What hypocrisy, what evil lying crap you leftists dish out. Including your lying crap about Bannon.
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Faith 
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Message 76 of 710 (799977)
02-18-2017 5:53 PM
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02-18-2017 5:52 PM


lying hypocrite.

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Faith 
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Message 79 of 710 (799981)
02-18-2017 6:20 PM
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02-18-2017 5:55 PM


The Federal Courts cannot make a fake interpretation Faith. By definition any interpretation they make IS the law
You're right about that, the courts DO make the laws, which is what that amounts to, usurping the role of the Legislature; all their slimy misreadings of the Constitution are treated as law no matter how twisted.
You've all lost what shred of credibility the Left still had a decade ago, with the elevation of America-hating Communist-bred Islamist Obama to the Presidency, with all the worshipful messianic fervor bestowed on him, just as will be bestowed on the final Antichrist; and now that unbelievably twisted claim that he's the one who loves America? Oh that was dwise, not you, sorry I get you confused with each other sometimes with your unified support for the Big Lie.
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