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Author Topic:   I Am Not An Atheist!
shalamabobbi
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Message 164 of 382 (498080)
02-08-2009 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by ICANT
02-07-2009 12:25 PM


Re: To Believers
The only difference in a person in heaven and hell.
The one in heaven is a saved sinner and the one in hell is a lost sinner.
So whether you are a sinner or not is a mute point.
John tell us the only reason a person goes to hell or the lake of fire as I prefer is:
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John says you are condemned because you have not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Not because you are a sinner.
Not because you have not joined the church.
Not because you have not been baptized.
Not because you have not lived for God.
Not because you have not followed God's rules.
Not because you have not done many wonderful works.
Not because you have not helped the poor and downtrodden.
But because you have not believed in the only begotten Son of God.
That would involve believing that God IS.
As well as believing God will do what He says He will do.
Then trusting Him to do what He says He will do.
I like this idea... that of simply believing in Jesus and now I can carry on with my poor/irresponsible conduct and not worry about it anymore..
Kind of like the church's selling of indulgences a thousand years ago,
but in this more enlightened age the price tag has been removed in keeping with Isaiah 55:1...everyone that thirsteth, ..buy wine and milk without money and without price.
And to the point of the topic..
accepting the ToE or BB hinders this process of deep significant change in individuals because?...
You say so..
I am making a retraction of one of my former posts about belief having become the 'b' word and being silly.
This is truly frightening..

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