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Author Topic:   The power of prayer: in action
Dan Carroll
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Message 244 of 304 (154191)
10-29-2004 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by riVeRraT
10-29-2004 3:49 PM


So thats it, there's no God because of all that?
No. Where did I ever say that this was my reasoning that there's no God?
I think there's no God because there's nothing to suggest the existence of one, so I give the idea no more credence than I would the aforementioned inch-tall baboons.
Everything I've been talking about here is why I think that if God does exist, and has been personally seeing to where you pray, then his priorities are out of whack.
I've said that several times, just fyi.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 282 of 304 (154811)
11-01-2004 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by riVeRraT
10-30-2004 8:41 PM


I have prayed about what you have said to me. you bring up a lot of hard issues, and sometimes I do not have all the answers. But the truth of the matter is that God has put the responsibility in our hands.
Well, no offense, but I hope you can see how "I don't have an answer but still think I'm right" isn't really gonna fly with me.
You seem to be getting mad at single incidents and refuse to look at the bigger picture. There are many things that will not go our way.
Actually, things are going great for me. I've had fantastic week, all things told. It's other people that the really bad crap has happened to. And while they may take some comfort in the fact that good things happen elsewhere to other people, somehow I doubt it.
I mean... assuming they're alive to be able to take comfort in it, that is.
By you not believing in God, and in fact being angry about the whole thing, does not do a single bit of good.
Well, given that I don't believe in God, I'm really not angry at him. No moreso than the inch-tall baboons, that is.
Instead God needs people like you to help sort things out, instead of making them more confusing.
Hey, from where I'm sitting, it all looks pretty straightforward.
I don't think you are in any kind of position to judge God's priorities, as you do not know them fully.
See previous posts. If God does in fact exist, then I know what he hasn't done. And you've told me things he has done. If you're right, then that puts me in a pretty good place to judge his priorities.
The situation you are judging is your own personal priority. Just becasue you feel its bad that people are dying, they may actually be happier now going home to the father.
So once again, it was wrong of me to assume that Africans don't like to be killed.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 288 of 304 (154866)
11-01-2004 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Phat
11-01-2004 11:28 AM


Re: Prayer: To Whom?
I'd say you're talking to yourself too, but I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing. You can probably give yourself quite a few good answers without even knowing it.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 291 of 304 (154873)
11-01-2004 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by Percy
11-01-2004 12:39 PM


Re: Prayer: To Whom?
So the important question is, what is it that you are experiencing when you pray? It sounds very much like what I experience when I meditate. The feeling of connecting with the universe is not limited to those who pray.
I really need to find that prayer/drugs/meditation thread...
Edit: Ut! There it is!
Man, I was so much more polite back then.
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 11-01-2004 12:52 PM

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