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NosyNed
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Message 130 of 300 (275334)
01-03-2006 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by randman
01-03-2006 10:38 AM


Good attitude
If you have a good attitude, people will probably be willing to share with you.
One suspects that a good attitude is to not ask to many questions.
RM, we know for a fact that we are all easily fooled; more so if we want a certain thing to be true. We also know for a fact that we don't always(in fact rarely do) remember things as they actually occured. In addtion, we know for a fact that people tend to exaggerate. On occasion some individuals lie.
As Schraf notes, when the kind of claims you are making are examined carefully they never stand up. The track record is such that the most reasonable conclusion is that if enough facts are available the story will not be as it first appears to be. It is only when there are not enough varifiable facts available that any question remains.
The above two paragraphs are the factual background that applies when we are to examine such claims. What conclusion would anyone draw? Even someone who is sure they have experienced such things when we all know for a fact that we are very easy to fool and be mistaken should approach this with a bit of care. You obviously have no idea about taking such care.
I have enjoyed a number of occasions when my own eyes have decieved me. It is an interesting feeling while your head scrambles to sort out what is going on. To jump to an early conclusion is a mistake.

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Message 132 of 300 (275357)
01-03-2006 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by randman
01-03-2006 2:26 PM


Documentation
All Schraf is asking for is such documentation.
Since you don't have any for the examples given perhaps you could pick ones for which there is documentation and refer us to that documentation.

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NosyNed
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Message 135 of 300 (275372)
01-03-2006 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by randman
01-03-2006 2:33 PM


Re: Documentation
Imo, it is a waste of time documentating miracles for those that don't want to believe.
Funny thing this; a very common reaction when requesting the supposed "documentation".
You might simple point to the documentation and/or ask what we might consider appropriate. When we are asked for documentation we offer some 90+ percent of the time. When the not-so-scientific are asked somehow it is too much trouble to point to it or it is not easily available. And then, of course, there are the other cases when references are supplied which do not support the thesis presented.

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Message 226 of 300 (277102)
01-08-2006 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by nator
01-08-2006 9:42 AM


Experts
But how many neuroscientists would disagree?
Who cares? What are the reasons they disagree is what counts; whatever their expertise.

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