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Straggler
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Message 135 of 468 (519410)
08-13-2009 2:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 133 by RAZD
08-12-2009 8:33 PM

Re: A Brief Comment about Getting Along
See Message 9
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Straggler
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Message 197 of 468 (538015)
12-02-2009 3:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 193 by RAZD
11-28-2009 5:46 PM

Polite Request
This is not a report of a problem as such. Just a polite request that I did not want to bung up the thread in question with.
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In Message 508 RAZD quotes me, and replies to, the following:
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Straggler writes:
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C) Agnostic - There is no evidence. There is a complete vacuum ...
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However the sentence being quoted in the post being replied to is as follows:
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Straggler writes:
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C) Agnostic - There is no evidence. There is a complete vacuum of all objective evidence pertaining to the existence of your god (including any historical, cultural or psychological objective evidence that might be relevant to assessing the likelihood of human invention) and the only rational response is therefore pure agnosticicm.
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Now I know full quotations in full context are not always appropriate or even necessary but if we start cutting each other off in mid sentence in ways that completely change the meaning of the statement then all chaos will ensue. Meaningful debate will become impossible.
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Can I therefore politely request that RAZD modify this specific quote and that when any of us quote each other we stick to at least full sentences unless there is exceptionally good reason not to?
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Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.
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Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.
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Straggler
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Message 199 of 468 (538024)
12-02-2009 4:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 198 by iano
12-02-2009 4:15 PM

Re: Polite Request
A) But how else are we going to keep ourselves entertained on these long dark winter nights?
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B) Nobody has to read or participate if they don't want to. But the discussions in question seem to garner a lot of interest and some very good posts from numerous sources and all sides of the debate are often forthcoming.
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C) I may well be irrationally deluded but I think (painfully) slow progres is being made.
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Iano writes:
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Yer both smart enough.
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Well I will take that as a compliment of sorts. And with regard to RAZD - I have never queried his intelligence. Just the veracity and validity of his arguments.
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Straggler
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Message 201 of 468 (538032)
12-02-2009 5:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 200 by iano
12-02-2009 4:51 PM

Re: Polite Request: (Hate Crimes - Against Deists)
Iano writes:
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Indeed. But all you two do, it seems to me, is fight.
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Even if true - It keeps me off the streets where I would otherwise doubtless be off committing hate crimes against deists.
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Straggler
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Message 202 of 468 (538247)
12-04-2009 8:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 193 by RAZD
11-28-2009 5:46 PM

2nd Polite Request
This really should not be neceesary but the same thing has happened for a second time in a row. In Message 531 RAZD quotes me (and responds to) the following:
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RAZD writes:
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Straggler writes:
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Could you tell me what direct empirical objective evidence you have that contradicts the existence of magical Santa Claus concepts,....
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This concept is originally based on a real person that actually lived and was of very benevolent (year round) disposition, someone worth emulating, and worthy of inspiring others to emulate. The mythos that has grown up around him is easily traced to various sources, including the recent additions of flying reindeer and living at the north pole being due to known fictional story-telling by documented individuals writing and illustrating documented poems and pictures.
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When in fact the full sentence of mine was:
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Straggler writes:
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Could you tell me what direct empirical objective evidence you have that contradicts the existence of magical Santa Claus concepts, The Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy?
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I would like to request once again that RAZD edit his post to include at least the full sentence he is responding to. And that he treat this as standard practise in future.
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Honestly we cannot start quoting each other in half sentences merely because full sentences don't comply with our counter arguments. This is just ridiculous.
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Straggler
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Message 205 of 468 (538520)
12-07-2009 5:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 203 by RAZD
12-04-2009 9:21 PM

Re: 2nd Polite Request
I can say with absolute certainty that I have never intentionally half quoted anyone so as to intentionally misrepresent or evade the full meaning of a given quote.
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OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein.
AdminPD
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Edited by AdminPD, : Off Topic
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