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xongsmith Member Posts: 2641 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
Dr Adequate writes: While the threat from their egg-laying activities is minimal, there is always the possibility that they'll think of some more efficient way to destroy life as we know it. It would therefore be prudent to take some pre-emptive measure such as the annihilation of all penguins. There will be the usual protests from animal rights activists, so I suggest that we kill them too. You can't be too careful. Oh, everyone knows that all penguins are going to heaven. This is abundantly obvious. Except for the one that Batman had to contend with. So, why don't we just wait until after Saturday? Not only that, but then we can scoop up all the empty tuxedoes and start our own Tuxedo Rental business. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1724 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Panda writes: Flat earthI did a search in google for "how can we test if the earth is round" (as suggested by AdminChuck) and the first link provides several answers to Txomin's question. quote: Hi Panda, Txomin I did a google on "flat earth test" and also got many hits with examples, however some were from flat earthers showing how they "refuted" the tests and explained how the earth could be flat -- fascinating reading. I thought this site was the best: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/flat/flateart.htm
quote: Turning upside down demonstrates that it is a mirage reflection. I have seen this phenomenon from the middle of Lake Michigan looking both east and west. With modern equipment and watches we can now repeat Eratosthenes' experiment with observations made at the same time from different longitudes as well as different latitudes,and establish a grid of measurements, each with their distance known from a set zero point that becomes the timer for the measurements when the sun is directly overhead. Enlist a bunch of high schools from around the world to participate. Then you could make a list of predictions from each hypothesis and test for them against the results Could be a fun project. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Panda Member (Idle past 4031 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
From the article you linked, it seems like Flat-Earthers end up having to claim massive conspiracies and deny gravitational forces to maintain their beliefs.
The article didn't address satellite photography - but I guess that would fall under the 'conspiracy' heading.) quote:Why haven't flat-earthers gone and photographed the edge? And is 150ft really too high to cross?!? I think without testing the shape of the earth: the level of conspiracy required to make people believe a flat earth is spherical is beyond credibility.I am happy with the current lay-man's tests because to disbelieve them means up-rooting too many other established facts (including gravity). If a flat-earther wants to go and photograph the edge of the world, I will be fascinated to see the results. Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Butterflytyrant Member (Idle past 4741 days) Posts: 415 From: Australia Joined: |
Hello Panda and RAZD,
I think without testing the shape of the earth: the level of conspiracy required to make people believe a flat earth is spherical is beyond credibility. It may be beyond your credibility but we should start teaching it in science classes just in case. Your round earth theory is not the only option you know ![]() I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong Butterfly, AKA, mallethead - Dawn Bertot "Superstitions and nonsense from the past should not prevent us from making progress. If we hold ourselves back, we admit that our fears are more powerful than our abilities." Hunters of Dune Herbert & Anderson
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1120 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
There is a video where His Holiness Carl Sagan shows how the earth's circumference was measured waaaaayyyy back when. I'm at work and can't remember what video it was. Youtube somewhere, I'm sure. Something about shadows....
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1724 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi Butterflytyrant, Panda, etc.
It may be beyond your credibility but we should start teaching it in science classes just in case. Your round earth theory is not the only option you know Yes, we should teach both sides of the controversy and let the students decide ... ![]() Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6187 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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In addition, I would think that the dip angle (not listed as such, but idea is included in the article on the horizon) might work.
One visual clue that we were taught about is how a ship leaving port appears to disappear as it goes over the horizon but its upper superstructure remains visible. This also comes into play when two ships at sea need to be within a particular distance of each other to begin to see each other; the top of the mast is always the first part to appear. The higher up the observer is, the farther out he can spot something, which is why a lookout would be placed in the crow's nest and why search radar's antennas are placed high on the ship. In astronomy, the horizon extends out horizontally from the observer; ie, at right angles to the vertical. The true horizon, where the sky meets the ground, is below that. At what angle lower (AKA "dip angle") depends on the altitude of the observer (the greater the altitude, the lower the dip angle) and, if I recall correctly, on the radius of the earth (the smaller the radius, the greater the dip angle). The mathematics can be left as an exercise for the student.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
When this icon appears on my taskbar ...
... I've never found any way to get internet access again except to restart my computer. There must be a better way, does anyone know of one? Thanks.
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Panda Member (Idle past 4031 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Sometimes TOTO your modem can help.
Your modem might include some software for monitoring/repairing your broadband connection. Also, I think you can also right-click the icon and select 'Repair'. But, unfortunately, sometimes you just have to TOTO your PC. :S If it is happening regularly, then there could be a problem with your broadband. Ask your IP to check it out. (This is not something I am trained in per se, but it is something I have a much experience of.)Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1120 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Open up a command prompt, then type in
ipconfig /release then, when the ip is flushed, type
ipconfig /renew
(note a space after ipconfig) However, there could be a number of reasons for this happening and the above will only resolve the issue if it is due to your machine. for example, on my Windows 7 Ultimate machine right now, I get the same icon when my modem loses connectivity even though my PC's IP address is fine because my router acts as a DHCP server. It is apparently indicating to me a loss of internet connectivity, whereas prior versions of windows did not do this. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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nwr Member Posts: 6489 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: |
I sometimes see that on a Vista computer. It is typically caused by rebooting the router (either deliberately, or the router just decided to reboot).
If I unplug the ethernet cable, and leave it unplugged for a minute or two, then I often get a connection back when I restore the cable. I'm not sure that works every time. When trying that trick, I normally unplug the router end of the ethernet, since that is more easily accessible than the computer end. This did not happen with a previous computer. I am not sure if this behavior is due to hardware (presumably the ethernet card), or due to the change from XP to Vista. On my normal desktop, I see something similar with linux, if the NetworkManager software is managing the network. If I switch to using init scripts, I don't have similar problems.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1786 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I've noticed, especially on Vista/Win 7 platforms, a lot of network-related weirdness caused by the IPv6 drivers (Toredo IP Tunneling, etc), up to and including random BSOD's. I'm recommending that everybody experiencing persistent internet weirdness uninstall their IPv6 drivers (which is a bit of a complicated process, since you have to both uninstall the drivers and disable IPv6 support with a registry key, otherwise they just reinstall at next bootup.)
These drivers are just abominable and they solve a "problem" that nobody has, yet.
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nwr Member Posts: 6489 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: |
I've noticed, especially on Vista/Win 7 platforms, a lot of network-related weirdness caused by the IPv6 drivers
Interesting. Thanks.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Alas, it says:
'IPCONFIG' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. One possible reason for this is that when I opened up the command line, it said:
Specified COMMAND search directory bad
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1120 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
i am on my phone because my internet is down ATM, so my resources are limited, but I found this: answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090131123734AAYJyuG.
what os are you running? hopefully the problem isn't something worse than a simple IP error..... forgive my formatting, it's not fun doing HTML on a phone..."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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