Buzsaw writes:
Group one: Regular Sunday go meetin fundi NT believers who pray regularly, read the Bible daily, work, attend religious functions often; i.e. your hated Biblio-fundies.
anglagard writes:
What a perfect description of Hong Xiuquan, #5 in the sweepstakes for an individual responsible for the most deaths in human history.
For those who don't know or more likely, don't want to know,
Hong Xiuquan was the leader of the
Taipeng Rebellion.
Here is the description from the wiki:
quote:
The Taiping Rebellion was a widespread civil war in southern China from 1850 to 1864, led by heterodox Christian convert Hong Xiuquan against the ruling Manchu-led Qing Dynasty. About 20 million people died, mainly civilians, in one of the deadliest military conflicts in history.
Hong, who had received visions and maintained that he was the younger brother of Jesus Christ, established the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom with its capital at Nanjing. The theocratic and militaristic regime instituted several social reforms, including strict separation of the sexes, abolition of foot binding, land socialization and common property, suppression of private trade, and the replacement of Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion by a form of Christianity.
According to everything I have read on the subject, which I believe to be far more extensive than Buzsaw, the following is true about Hong Xiuquan:
Pray regularly - check
Read the Bible daily - check
Work - only if one considers leading tens of millions work - check
Attend religious functions often - try organized often - check
Hated Biblio-fundie - hated by the Qing among others, fundie, well he was pretty strict about that Christian morality - so, check
Now as to the numbers (from
List of wars and anthropogenic disasters by death toll):
WW2: 40,000,000-72,000,000
An Lushan Rebellion: 33,000,000-36,000,000
Mongol Conquests: 30.000,000-60,000,000
Qing Dynasty Conquest of Ming Dynasty: 25,000,000
Taipeng Rebellion: 20,000,000-100,000,000
In referring to Hong Xiuquan as #5, I was using the low estimate.
Buzsaw writes:
How far fetched can you get, Anglagard? You're totally off the wire, applying one single strawman, having no resemblence of my description of group one, comprising of millions.
Please provide evidence of the claims of "strawman" or "no resemblance" instead of simply dismissing what you obviously find an unpleasant historical fact.
Edited by anglagard, : Missing link
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