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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Where is a standard of good out there that makes the whole notion of evil intelligible? I think you must have a transcendent concept of moral duty to, or moral obligation to something that has given man this standard to which goodness is owed. No, I just like people and therefore wish that no harm should come to them. I don't need to feel an obligation to an abstract "something" which tells me to love my neighbor, I can take a short-cut and feel an obligation to my neighbor to love my neighbor. This seems to me to work out better than imagining what might please the sadistic lunatic portrayed in the Bible.
I can see why you'd rather wrestle with the delimma of Jersey Shore's popularity. You asked what I couldn't account for. I can readily account for my preference for good over evil.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Check that passage in other translations. Some of them have "calamity" there. That's what the word means in that context.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you, Larni, although Drosophilia has no cause to attribute murder to anyone who believes as I do. They can't be believers who do that.
He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you, Crash.
He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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Check that passage in other translations. Many of them have "calamity" there. That's what the word means in that context. What was that you were saying before about the King James Version being the best (which is what I quoted from)? But oh, if it shows you being wrong, well then, piss on it this time! You're hilarious.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3849 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
No, I just like people and therefore wish that no harm should come to them. I don't need to feel an obligation to an abstract "something" which tells me to love my neighbor, I can take a short-cut and feel an obligation to my neighbor to love my neighbor. This seems to me to work out better than imagining what might please the sadistic lunatic portrayed in the Bible.
If you practice what you preach here you are just a practicing whatreligious teahers have been trying to get others to do. Apparently, most all people, but you, need those lessons.So why knock the efforts oif people who just want more people to abide your philosophy???? Romans 13:10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Galatians 5:14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself James 2:8If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah I can explain that too.
The KJV IS the best translation but it DOES need to be updated and it hasn't been updated in a long time because of the wily actions of the revising committee of 1881 which substituted some corrupt Greek texts and did 36000 unnecessary changes in the English. They were supposed to do a minimal updating. Since they didn't we have dozens of new corrupted "translations" that spun off that corrupted revision that are not trustworthy overall although here and there they use more modern words that the KJV would benefit from. The KJV still needs some small corrections. We no longer use the word "evil" the way the KJV did in that passage. It had the right meaning when it was originally used. OK? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Well the KJV (actually the King James Authorized Version) was meant to be a politically correct Bible designed to not irritate Roman Catholics or Protestants yet maintain and reinforce the Divine Right of Kings more than being theologically correct or accurate.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1533 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Oh the contortions one must do to keep my faith and beliefs true.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It irritated the Roman Catholics no end. They've been trying to get rid of it ever since. There is reason to believe they were behind the corrupted Greek texts of the revision of 1881, which were most likely forgeries although that hasn't yet been proved for sure. They were at least corrupted by heretics in the early years according to Dean Burgon who did an extensive critique of the Revision. And there is also reason to believe that the RC are behind the multiplication of translations which are a blight on the church.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You betcha. There are always evil people trying to undermine the true faith and often getting away with it.
He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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OK? If you want to come off as someone who has no honesty with themselves or other people and will say anything they have to in order to maintain the beliefs they've already decided they must adhere to... yeah, if that's okay then its OK.
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It irritated the Roman Catholics no end. They've been trying to get rid of it ever since. sigh I grew up through 12 years of Catholic education and we used the King James Version of the Bible that whole time. Seems to be an odd way of trying to get rid of it. But, you know, facts don't really matter when you've already made your mind up.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
YOu can go read my blog on on the 1881 Bible Revision if you like, I've quoted a lot of people on this subject. It's an important controversy in the church.
The Great Bible Hoax of 1881
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Things are a lot more convoluted than you have any idea. You will also now find the RC claiming that they had a hand in the King James translation. Ha ha ha. They'll take any position necessary if it will confuse things.
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