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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
ScottRP
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Message 1051 of 1310 (769143)
09-16-2015 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1048 by arachnophilia
09-16-2015 9:06 PM


arachnophilia writes:
professional, they regulate access a bit. college? college is incredible. like, it's a line of 400 f/2.8s ($10K in glass!) from one endzone to the other.
You cannot expect every person who sees spirits to own such equipment.

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arachnophilia
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Message 1052 of 1310 (769144)
09-16-2015 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1046 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 8:30 PM


ScottRP writes:
This is what a spirit looks like in flight. The spirit form leaves a trail and becomes blurred. Anyone who knows spirits knows this.
so does anything with a longer shutter speed. like, say, for instance, an insect.
what you don't get is a sharp image on the leading edge of the motion (unless a strobe went off, and you're using rear-sync). meaning that it's literally impossible for that to be an image of what it looks like.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1053 of 1310 (769145)
09-16-2015 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1050 by Theodoric
09-16-2015 9:16 PM


Yet, it is the wise man who believes in God.

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Theodoric
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Message 1054 of 1310 (769146)
09-16-2015 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1053 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:19 PM


WTF does that have to do with my post?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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ScottRP
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Message 1055 of 1310 (769147)
09-16-2015 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1052 by arachnophilia
09-16-2015 9:17 PM


arachnophilia writes:
it's literally impossible for that to be an image of what it looks like.
So, now what you are saying is that we cannot believe our eyes. lol

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ScottRP
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Message 1056 of 1310 (769148)
09-16-2015 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1054 by Theodoric
09-16-2015 9:22 PM


My mistake...I was commenting on your signature.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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arachnophilia
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Message 1057 of 1310 (769149)
09-16-2015 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1051 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:16 PM


ScottRP writes:
You cannot expect every person who sees spirits to own such equipment.
i don't. besides, it wouldn't help you -- it takes very sharp pictures of things very far away, in lower light, without blurring stuff.
to make these spirit pictures, you have to take something fuzzy, close up, on low quality gear.

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arachnophilia
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Message 1058 of 1310 (769150)
09-16-2015 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1055 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:23 PM


ScottRP writes:
So, now what you are saying is that we cannot believe our eyes. lol
no, not to believe your cameras. cameras don't really capture reality the way our eyes perceive it. they do things like add distortion, or selectively focus, or blur the background/foreground in ways we don't normally see, and they record a discreet moment in time as a still image -- depending on the length of that moment, things we perceive as sharp become blurred, or things we can't track with our eyes can become sharp.
you can't do both at the same time unless there's two exposures -- like an ambient one and a strobe. like this. the details are locked in by a much shorter duration and higher intensity flash of light. otherwise, the whole thing is just a blur.
no strobe? no details on the leading edge. just blur.

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ScottRP
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Message 1059 of 1310 (769152)
09-16-2015 9:50 PM
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09-16-2015 9:27 PM


It is the spirit form itself that stretches out in a blurry trail. It has nothing to do with the camera. This is the actual way a spirit looks in flight, even without a camera.
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Message 1060 of 1310 (769153)
09-16-2015 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1059 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:50 PM


Ummm. Why do spirits have to "fly?" i.e., amble along rather slowly?
Can't they do instantaneous or something cool?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1061 of 1310 (769155)
09-16-2015 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1049 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:12 PM


Re: Spirits and Aliens: Hoaxes All
I would not be fooled by an education nor the ability to formulate a sentence.
Apparently, you are quite easily fooled. You were gullible enough to be fooled by a known hoax on the internet. One that, even at a glance, should have been suspect.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1062 of 1310 (769156)
09-16-2015 10:23 PM
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09-16-2015 10:08 PM


Coyote writes:
Ummm. Why do spirits have to "fly?" i.e., amble along rather slowly?
Can't they do instantaneous or something cool?
The higher angels in both kingdoms and the rewarded saints in heaven have the power of teleportation graciously bestowed upon them by God and His Son, Jesus.

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Coyote
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Message 1063 of 1310 (769158)
09-16-2015 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1062 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 10:23 PM


Argggggh
The higher angels in both kingdoms and the rewarded saints in heaven have the power of teleportation graciously bestowed upon them by God and His Son, Jesus.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 1064 of 1310 (769159)
09-16-2015 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1061 by AZPaul3
09-16-2015 10:23 PM


Re: Spirits and Aliens: Hoaxes All
AZPaul3 writes:
Apparently, you are quite easily fooled. You were gullible enough to be fooled by a known hoax on the internet. One that, even at a glance, should have been suspect.
Governments try to hide alien findings. Those originally claiming to have found it, could now be claiming it to be a hoax as a government cover up. Do you know that it is not?

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 1065 of 1310 (769160)
09-16-2015 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1063 by Coyote
09-16-2015 10:31 PM


Angels and demons have powers. I have witnessed some of these powers myself. We are often out of our bodies and in the invisible spirit world when we are dreaming and you can witness some of these powers for yourself.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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