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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
arachnophilia
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Message 1081 of 1310 (769202)
09-17-2015 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1059 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 9:50 PM


ScottRP writes:
It is the spirit form itself that stretches out in a blurry trail. It has nothing to do with the camera.
nope. it's what a fast object does with a slow shutter speed. notice the thing darting around in the beginning of the video, that's obviously an insect (probably the same insect)? it's streaky too.

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arachnophilia
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Message 1082 of 1310 (769205)
09-17-2015 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1068 by New Cat's Eye
09-16-2015 11:31 PM


Re: It's not the photographer's fault
you know cat, i was actually thinking "i bet someone's going to post that mitch hedberg joke" when i wrote my post.

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arachnophilia
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Message 1083 of 1310 (769207)
09-17-2015 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1064 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 10:35 PM


Re: Spirits and Aliens: Hoaxes All
ScottRP writes:
Governments try to hide alien findings.
the opposite is actually true. in a few very notable cases, the government has intentionally allowed rumors of aliens etc to go unchecked, because it's a convincing distraction from what they're actually doing.
for instance, shortly after WW2 there was a project codenamed "mogul" that use high altitude balloons to listen (like, with microphones) for soviet nuclear testing. what happens when one of these balloons and microphone assemblies comes down on someone's ranch, and you don't want the soviets to know that you can potentially spy on them from your home soil?
it's a flying saucer, no wait it's a weather balloon. well, aliens are a better story than flying microphones.
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arachnophilia
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Message 1084 of 1310 (769208)
09-17-2015 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1067 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 11:15 PM


ScottRP writes:
You failed to answer the question. Do you know it is not a government cover up?
yes. SETI is so strapped for funding these days, and have so much data to analyze that they farm analytics out to people on the web:
SETI@home
these are literally the people who spend their entire lives actively searching for aliens. finding a signal or any sign of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe would be instant fame, fortune, and a nobel prize for the person or team that found it.
you might be able to keep a small cadre of government officials quiet, but you can't keep 3 million independent home users and thousands of scientists who have made their lives work quiet.
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ringo
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Message 1085 of 1310 (769214)
09-17-2015 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1076 by ScottRP
09-17-2015 12:15 AM


ScottRP writes:
I am one of God's true witnesses.
In the Old Testament, two witnesses were required - i.e. the claims of one witness had to be corroborated by another.
Where's your backup? Who else agrees with you?

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ringo
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Message 1086 of 1310 (769216)
09-17-2015 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1034 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 6:19 PM


ScottRP writes:
I know what I have seen.
So do I. I know I have seen Fred Flintstone but I also know that what I have seen is not real. He isn't a real caveman. There's a better explanation. I would love it if there are real cavemen walking around today with elephant vacuum cleaners and monkeys running the stop lights but there's a better explanation for what I see.
I know you would love it if there were spirits flying around that you could see and photograph - but there's a better explanation for what you're seeing.

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Message 1087 of 1310 (769220)
09-17-2015 12:31 PM
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09-17-2015 12:07 PM


I know you would love it if there were spirits flying around that you could see and photograph - but there's a better explanation for what you're seeing.
When I close my eyes and rub them I see all kinds of colored spirits. I wish I could figure out how to photograph them. I know spirits though and those are them.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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ringo
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Message 1088 of 1310 (769221)
09-17-2015 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1087 by Tanypteryx
09-17-2015 12:31 PM


Tanypteryx writes:
When I close my eyes and rub them I see all kinds of colored spirits. I wish I could figure out how to photograph them.
You'd only mess it up anyway, you and your damn focus.

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ScottRP
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Message 1089 of 1310 (769234)
09-18-2015 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1079 by vimesey
09-17-2015 4:18 AM


vimesey writes:
However, if pretty much everyone else I met told me he didn't exist, at that point I'd stop saying I know he exists, and book myself an appointment with a doctor.
This is not likely to happen to me. Over half the world believes in the Abrahamic God, Jesus as Christ and the angels.
The Global Religious Landscape.
The Global Religious Landscape | Pew Research Center

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Message 1090 of 1310 (769237)
09-18-2015 1:33 AM
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09-18-2015 12:49 AM


Oh there are many of such faith, I agree.
But considerably fewer who believe they have seen what you believe you have.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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ScottRP
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Message 1091 of 1310 (769238)
09-18-2015 1:36 AM
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09-17-2015 11:59 AM


ringo writes:
In the Old Testament, two witnesses were required - i.e. the claims of one witness had to be corroborated by another.
Where's your backup? Who else agrees with you?
Bright Orb of the Holy Spirit captured in photos.
Bright Orb of the Holy Spirit captured in photos - HubPages

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ScottRP
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Message 1092 of 1310 (769239)
09-18-2015 1:38 AM
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09-18-2015 1:33 AM


You would be surprised at how many Christians would tell you that they have seen a deceased relative, and angel, and even Jesus.

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vimesey
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Message 1093 of 1310 (769241)
09-18-2015 6:55 AM
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09-18-2015 1:38 AM


No more surprised than I would be at the number who told me they believe Jesus walked on water.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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ringo
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Message 1094 of 1310 (769248)
09-18-2015 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1091 by ScottRP
09-18-2015 1:36 AM


ScottRP writes:
Bright Orb of the Holy Spirit captured in photos.
You didn't respond to what I said at all. Let's try again:
In the Old Testament, two witnesses were required - i.e. the claims of one witness had to be corroborated by another.
Where's your backup? Who else agrees with you?
That would be two witnesses to the same event. Unless you saw the same phenomenon in your link at the same time, it doesn't meet the Biblical standard.

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ringo
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Message 1095 of 1310 (769258)
09-18-2015 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1033 by ScottRP
09-16-2015 6:17 PM


Re: Undeniably Not Dust (Photograph)
ScottRP writes:
Spirits do not need to eat. I have seen two human spirits without faces and can vaguely remember one of them speaking. Other spirits without human faces communicate.
If they don't need faces, why do they have faces? And why do some of them not have faces?

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