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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
My explanation?
First, the timing within the Flood year was not important to the writer, or to God. Second, it's an ancient text no doubt based on even more ancient oral accounts or possibly written ones; we shouldn't compare its style to today's principles of writing. Third, a word or two may have been miscopied or mistranslated. Inerrancy doesn't apply to copies or translations, only to the original writing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: Inerrancy doesn't apply to translations, only to the original writing. And of course we have no originals of anything found in any Bible from any Canon. So we have no idea what the originals said. And the Bible and bible stories are still totally irrelevant in this topic.My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So the story is not intended to be an accurate account of events.
quote: There certainly are differences, but that hardly seems to be the case here.
quote: That hardly fits what you are saying at all. If that were the entire problem we should be able to work out when most of the events occurred.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So the story is not intended to be an accurate account of events. Only with respect to timing.
If that were the entire problem we should be able to work out when most of the events occurred. Not if there are no extant copies with a plausible alternative wording. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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Dinosaurs "walking out on an unlivable place" isn't a straw man? It's a SILLY straw man.
Of course it is. However, it is also the logical result of your scenario. There are dinosaur tracks on the surface of the strata, no? The strata surfaces are unlivable, no? So, where did the dinosaurs come from to make the tracks? Clearly, it was someplace that was livable.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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It lifted the ark up rather gently from the sound of it. No reason in some phases it couldn't have been gentle.
That's one of the problems with your scenario. The fludde can do anything that you want it to do.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: How would you know ? If the account is intended to be accurate we should at least be able to work out the order of events. But you say that we can't.
quote: No. A word here or there should not cause this degree of confusion.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Dinosaurs "walking out on an unlivable place" isn't a straw man? It's a SILLY straw man. Of course it is. However, it is also the logical result of your scenario. There are dinosaur tracks on the surface of the strata, no? The strata surfaces are unlivable, no? So, where did the dinosaurs come from to make the tracks? Clearly, it was someplace that was livable. Whatever was still left of the unflooded land then. But by the time they left the tracks it would seem they were already overtaken by the Flood and just trying to stay ahead of its next wave. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
Why, if the whole world was being inundated would they have had any livable space to "come out of?"
And yet, they made the tracks. So, how did they do that if there was no livable place on earth? Did Noah take a rest stop and walk the dinosaurs?
If the Flood was still rising there might have been some remaining unflooded land they were running toward, but that's the only possiblity that occurs to me.
Well, then, there you go! A livable place. I'm glad we got that resolved. Moving on...
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's one of the problems with your scenario. The fludde can do anything that you want it to do. We do have to stay within the scanty hints of scripture, and we do try to be reasonable about it.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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Whatever was still left of the unflooded land then. But by the time they left the tracks it would seem they were already overtaken by the Flood and just trying to stay ahead of its next wave.
So, then, why did they walk back out into the flood sediments if they were trying to escape the flood? I mean, according to you, they were frantically running away from the flood. I know that dinosaurs weren't very smart, but this seems rather suicidal. (I'm just visualizing dinosaurs playing in the surf. Sorry.)
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
edge writes: I'm just visualizing dinosaurs playing in the surf. Considering all the evidence of a Biblical flood, more like kiddies stomping in a puddle.My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So, then, why did they walk back out into the flood sediments if they were trying to escape the flood? I mean, according to you, they were frantically running away from the flood. Dinosaurs living peaceably on their turf, munching whatever they munch, or sitting on their nests. Other dinosaurs come running toward them, pass them, keep running. They are curious but only a couple join with the running ones. Soon after comes the front edge of a wave of water; it stops some distance before reaching them. They are curious but not panicked. they go on munching and sitting. The next wave is higher but still some distance away. They stand up, a couple more start running but the rest go on munching. The next wave laps the toes of some of them. They now move in the direction of higher drier ground, many running. Some stop to munch whatever is munchable in their path. The next wave overtakes their first munching ground. They are now running and not munching. Nests are now floating on the water. The next wave overtakes them running. When it recedes, they are now running on wet fresh sediment. They run faster. They run and run but the next wave is up to their knees, and the next up to their bellies and so on. Soon there is no more higher drier land to run to. The Flood drowns them all. That is: They didn't need to STEP into the flood sediments; the Flood sediments caught up to them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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Dinosaurs living peaceably on their turf, munching whatever they munch, or sitting on their nests.
Wow! It's stunning, all of the things you can learn by reading the Bible. Other dinosaurs come running toward them, pass them, keep running. They are curious but only a couple join with the running ones. Soon after comes the front edge of a wave of water; it stops some distance before reaching them. They are curious but not panicked. they go on munching and sitting. The next wave is higher but still some distance away. They stand up, a couple more start running but the rest go on munching. The next wave laps the toes of some of them. They now move in the direction of higher drier ground, many running. Some stop to munch whatever is munchable in their path. The next wave overtakes their first munching ground. They are now running and not munching. Nests are now floating on the water. The next wave overtakes them running. When it recedes, they are now running on wet fresh sediment. They run faster. They run and run but the next wave is up to their knees, and the next up to their bellies and so on. Soon there is no more higher drier land to run to. The Flood drowns them all. That is: They didn't need to STEP into the flood sediments; the Flood sediments caught up to them. Now I know that a tidal surge that can overrun a dinosaur is also gentle enough to pick up little dino nests and gently transport them to wherever. Same thing with the coprolites. This is truly an amazing fludde.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And different than ALL known examples. Waves come in and sandcastles dissolve, the heart drawn in the wet sand showing Br ---> JR 4ever gets wiped clean.
The Biblical flood is miraculous but still irrelevant to this topic.My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios
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