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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Since no reply to my questions you obviously have no evidence to back the assertions you made in this post. As I assumed.
This post is not for you, but to make sure the lurkers are aware that you make many claims that are not backed up by any evidence or facts, whatsoever. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Some of the above escaped the Mad Censor if you want to use Peek Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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THat is not a medical term it is a political term. The purpose of the term is to enflame and incite It was first used by a forced birther organization NRLC in 1995.
quote:To show how vile forced birthers are. quote: The whole issue of partial-birth abortion is an manufactured canard.Intact D&E is in fact safer for the pregnant woman, but who cares about her. If you want to bring up and vilify intact D&E, then learn about it and understand it, don't throw out a charged, loaded term and think you have won the debate, because you have not. All you have done is expose your ignorance. 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
No one on the forced birther side can come up with a realistic 39 week abortion. Still waiting. It is all lies and smoke and mirrors.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Unless you have some other data.
All the pro-birther side has is anecdotes and hypotheticals. They have no real life examples or data to support their attempt to push their moral values on society as a whole.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Stop saying dumb things.
Troll. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Google page on "partial birth abortion" doesn't suggest a political origin for the term:
Intact dilation and extraction - Wikipedia
Intact dilation and extraction - Wikipedia In the U.S., a federal statute defines "partial-birth abortion" as any abortion in which the life of the fetus is terminated after having been extracted from the mother's body to a point "past the navel [of the fetus]" or "in the case of head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother" ... Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act - WikipediaPartial-Birth Abortion Ban Act - Wikipedia The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 is a United States law prohibiting a form of late termination of pregnancy called "partial-birth abortion", referred to in ...Public law”: ”Pub.L. 108-105 Long title”: ”An Act to prohibit the procedure com... Titles amended”: ”18 Enacted by”: ”the 108th United States Congress ”Provisions · ”Partial-birth abortion ... · ”Legislative and judicial ... · ”Public opinion
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
You are breaking a forum rule. Again.
Just because you thought you heard something does not mean that it is factual. Since you can not support your argument with evidence you should rescind it. quote:EvC Forum: Rules Do you think you have a different set of rules than the rest of us.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
If you would actual read what others link to and what even you link to you would not have to be so embarrassed by your posts.
Let's just use your source Wikipedia. From the second page you link to there is this little nugget. quote: More sourcing.
quote:What Is "Partial-Birth" Abortion? It's A Political Term, Not A Medical One The Partial-Birth Fraud - The American Prospect I believe that is a check mate. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah I'm lazy. Doesn't matter what I say about anything, what evidence I do present, it gets trashed here anyway.
Another lazy observation: Looks llke the term has become official no matter where it originated. Is there an alternative term for it you find more acceptable? The description of the "procedure" seems well described by that term. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Doesn't matter what I say about anything, what evidence I do present, it gets trashed here anyway.
You never present evidence. All you do is troll. How about using the actual medical term. Intact dilation and extraction. There is no birth involved. The fetus is either dead already or has severe health issues. You claim that viable infants were born then killed or left to die. Provide actual evidence.Are continuing being a troll. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: It gives me a stomachache to see that anyone would trash the American founders as you and others do. You are courting complete anarchy and the destruction of the nation. Oh, please. You must run into a lot of tree branches riding around on that high horse. The founding fathers were human, like us. They had some good ideas, and some bad ideas. They had some ideas that simply didn't pass the test of time. That's fine. No one is trashing the founding fathers. All we are saying is that society has changed, so our laws need to change with it. We certainly aren't saying that we need to get rid of laws altogehter, just change them.
However, there is a historical point to be made, of which you are obviously completely ignorant. Abortion, or really, infanticide, leaving a newborn out exposed to the elements to die a painful death, was a common practice in all the pagan cultures Christianity eventually supplanted in the West. Those aren't the same thing.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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No this does not support your contention about pagan cultures. First of all the page you link to provides no source or data to support it's contention that child abandonment was common in medieval times. Maybe it was, but until I see data and facts I have no reason to believe their assertion.
But if it is true it does not help your claim that ritual infanticide was a pagan practice. The first date in this article is 1198. In 1198 the people that lived around the Tiber were not pagans. They were overwhelmingly, if not exclusively, christian. To add insult to your claim. Who was it that tried to stop this? Pope Innocent III. A damn catholic. You should actually read your links. That would allow you to understand them, summarize them and not continue to break forum rules. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But there, you see, when you say that a termination in the ninth month is for serious health reasons, you're conceding that it's a different situation from a termination at, say, seven weeks.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
When you say it's not a reality do you mean it doesn't happen, or that it shouldn't be permitted?
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