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Juvenissun
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Message 2241 of 2370 (881497)
08-24-2020 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2237 by Coragyps
08-24-2020 8:19 PM


Re: Time scales
Dwise1 - I’ll bet that Adam and Eve (and their direct progeny) just liked it HOT!!!
Your problem is that you think when the earth be put in the orbit of Mercury, it would have the climate like today's Mercury.
That is wrong.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2242 of 2370 (881499)
08-24-2020 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2240 by ringo
08-24-2020 8:26 PM


Re: Time scales
That isn't the issue. You wanted me to agree with your idea before you show us the math. That's like you agreeing that God doesn't exist before I show you why. I don't think you're eager to do that.
Yes, I would certainly agree with you. Because I WANT to see your proof. If you failed, then I will certainly withdraw my agreement.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2243 of 2370 (881500)
08-24-2020 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 2239 by dwise1
08-24-2020 8:25 PM


Re: Time scales
Changes in the earth's spin would not affect the earth's orbit. Period! Not in the particular case that you are talking about here, nor in any of the other cases/messages where you have made that mistake.
That particular earthquake was caused by a big reverse fault, which shock the earth. It would be similar to take a huge hammer and give the earth a big blow. Could that change the orbit a little bit?

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Juvenissun
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Message 2250 of 2370 (881528)
08-25-2020 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 2244 by ringo
08-24-2020 8:41 PM


Re: Time scales
That's no way to approach a discussion. Don't pretend to agree with me. That's dishonest. Tell me up front that you disagree with me. Then I'll tell you why you SHOULD agree with me.
I assume you might be right and want to hear your reason.
Why is that dishonest?

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Juvenissun
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Message 2251 of 2370 (881529)
08-25-2020 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 2245 by jar
08-24-2020 8:47 PM


Re: Time scales
Try to learn some basics.
The Earth got hit by something big enough to have created the moon and that did not appreciably change the orbit.
How do you know that?
I did not read the rest of the basics.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2253 of 2370 (881533)
08-25-2020 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 2246 by dwise1
08-24-2020 8:51 PM


Re: Time scales
The period of an orbit (AKA TIME) depends on the size of the orbit (AKA DISTANCE)
Why do you assume the gravitational force is a constant?
Could it be changed by the burning of the sun and the gaining or losing of mass on the earth?

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Juvenissun
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Message 2254 of 2370 (881534)
08-25-2020 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 2252 by jar
08-25-2020 9:26 AM


Re: Time scales
The earth could simply catch the moon, just like the Mars caught its moon.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2255 of 2370 (881535)
08-25-2020 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 2247 by dwise1
08-24-2020 8:55 PM


Re: Time scales
Are you trying to run away from my question?

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Juvenissun
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Message 2256 of 2370 (881536)
08-25-2020 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 2248 by dwise1
08-24-2020 9:06 PM


Re: Time scales
If the Himalayan Mts. suddenly collapsed into the Indian Ocean, would that change the earth orbit a little bit? I think it would. It would be no different from a mountain size asteroid hit the ocean.
Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.
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Juvenissun
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Message 2258 of 2370 (881538)
08-25-2020 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 2257 by jar
08-25-2020 9:59 AM


Re: Time scales
Our moon is made of the same materials as the Earth.
Not really. The earth has a lot of granite. The moon has none.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2259 of 2370 (881539)
08-25-2020 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 2249 by PaulK
08-25-2020 12:38 AM


Re: Science By Definition
So, talk as you like to. It would only confuse you more.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2265 of 2370 (881551)
08-25-2020 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 2260 by jar
08-25-2020 10:04 AM


Re: Time scales
Another truly stupid idea.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2266 of 2370 (881552)
08-25-2020 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 2261 by jar
08-25-2020 10:06 AM


Re: Time scales
That does not change the fact that the materials on the Moon are the same as on the Earth.
Do you even have a clue how granite is made?
Amazing.

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Juvenissun
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Message 2267 of 2370 (881553)
08-25-2020 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2264 by dwise1
08-25-2020 1:06 PM


Re: Time scales
The moon also does not have any limestone. Nor should it. The conditions that would produce a lot of granite (a molten core and magma) or limestone (zoeplankton living in seas) do not and have not existed on the moon.
If so, why does that stupid guy say that moon has the sample composition as the earth?

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Juvenissun
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Posts: 332
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Message 2273 of 2370 (881561)
08-25-2020 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2268 by dwise1
08-25-2020 1:23 PM


Re: Time scales
Your brain-dead stupid ad-hoc nonsense
Sorry, no matter how brilliant your argument is, these words are enough to turn me off.

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