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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Your subterfuge continues.
Your dysfunctional and dangerous Barrington declaration has nothing to do with vaccines or science. It is reich-wing political theater. It is a stupidity that needs to be exposed for the political rot that it is. Some group of scientists work for years developing a vaccine. Then one of them slips an intellectual cog and becomes an anti-vaxx crazy. And here you hold him up as your counter to Dr. Fauci. You lose big time.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Some posts are descending into incoherence. Please make your claims clear and insure that they have factual support.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
Your are descending into incoherence. Please make your claims clear and insure that they have factual support.
If you claim that the vaccine is effective and science based, then why does it not work?All cruise ships have to be vaxxed, pass and staff. "Every cruise ship sailing with passengers in U.S. waters has reports of COVID-19 infections, prompting some cruise ship operators to cancel sails as far out as April. The number of cruise ships with infections has dramatically increased over recent weeks as the Omicron variant spreads like wildfire throughout the U.S. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has flagged 92 cruise ships with infections this week." Omicron chaos forces Norwegian Cruise Line to cancel sailings until April Edited by drlove, : No reason given.Edited by drlove, : No reason given. Edited by drlove, : No reason given.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
OK, it sounded like an accusation. Moving on
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
This is not helpful. Please try to be constructive.
AbE: I see you edited your post. Thank you. Edited by Admin, : AbE.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
It would be helpful if you said who you are talking about.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
The climate does change. That is no excuse for your polluted language. Climate change is based on interpreting data using certain beliefs. Others interpret the same data using other beliefs. My own belief on that issue is that man cannot save himself. Period.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
drlove writes: It would be helpful if you said who you are talking about. Message 302 is a general reply addressed to no one specifically, as can be seen by the fact that there is no "reply to".
Message 305 was addressed to you specifically when your Message 303 replied to AZPaul3 with no content, just a mocking copy of my own general request:
drlove in Message 303 writes: You're descending into incoherence. Please make your claims clear and insure that they have factual support. You're instigating, doing what is sometimes called lobbing hand grenades. Please stop.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
Post 302 was supposed to reply to message 301. I addressed the points in that post.
You seem to be suggesting that I report it when people use demon talk and lob firebrands, rather than gently responding in kind in a far less offensive way.. In that case the whole discussion would be probably needed, since there are few if any posters that can be civil or support their vacuous and rude little tirades. Once again, I see none of them are addressed by mods here.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
If you claim that the vaccine is effective and science based, then why does it not work? It does. Wonderfully. Even with breakthrough infections, which, if they appear, are much milder an illness than the death zone the unvaccinated suffer. You and your masters don't want to see the facts. COVID-19 Vaccines Work | CDC I know you hate the CDC (which is hilarious since you cite them as a resource). Like Dr. Fauci, they keep exposing your conspiracy crap. I hold them up against anything you got, you fucking lying nazi.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
drlove writes: Post 302 was supposed to reply to message 301. I addressed the points in that post. You're obviously not familiar with the way this board works. Look in the upper right hand corner of this message. You'll see a notation that says "Reply to: Message 309 by drlove". That's because this message is a reply to your Message 309. Now look in the upper right hand corner of Message 302. There's nothing there. That's because it's not a reply to anyone in particular. It's what's called a general reply. If you look near the upper right or bottom left of any message page you'll see a General Reply button. When I posted my message to the thread I used the General Reply button. The message was to the thread in general.
You seem to be suggesting that I report it when people use demon talk and lob firebrands, rather than gently responding in kind in a far less offensive way. I'm suggesting nothing of the sort. That's not a reasonable interpretation of anything I said. I saw some speculating that perhaps English isn't your native language. Is that the case?
In that case the whole discussion would be probably needed, since there are few if any posters that can be civil or support their vacuous and rude little tirades. Once again, I see none of them are addressed by mods here. My request was addressed generally. I was not addressing you, but you replied to AZPaul3 with a cut-n-paste of my request. That was very provocative and instigative and tended to confirm my suspicions that you're here to stir the pot rather than contribute to constructive discussion. People who want to instigate and raise the ire of others have so wide a variety of tactics at their disposal that they couldn't possibly be fully enumerated and I won't try. I'm not going to give you a list of do's and don'ts. Either participate constructively, something that's not hard to figure out how to do, or I'll start employing the board's enforcement mechanisms. Please, no replies to this message. Edited by Admin, : Grammar.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
AZPaul3 writes: ...you fucking lying nazi. This isn't helpful.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Climate change is based on interpreting data using certain beliefs. Really? What certain beliefs led to this: The Working Group I contribution to the Sixth Assessment Report addresses the most up-to-date physical understanding of the climate system and climate change, bringing together the latest advances in climate science. Go ahead. Identify the beliefs used to reach the conclusions presented. What did this was science, the consensus of the world's climate scientists, devoid of the political BS you and your puppet masters want to use to obfuscate the truth.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Not sorry, boss, but I'll stop.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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drlove Member (Idle past 820 days) Posts: 153 Joined: |
Sorry. With Omicron the vaccines might as well be sugar pills.
"Have an important tip? Let us know.Email us here. Cameras were rolling during an incredible exchange between British Health Secretary Sajid Javid and a savvy, unvaccinated UK healthcare worker, who educated the unelected bureaucrat on everything from the benefits of natural immunity, to the dangers of a never-ending booster scheme. The one-sided debate took place during a visit Friday by Javid to Kings College Hospital in London, where he asked nurses what they thought about the government’s mandatory vaccination policy for healthcare workers. Steve James, an anesthesiologist working in the hospital’s Covid Intensive Care Unit, spoke up to Javid about why he disagreed with the NHS policy, and explained he hasn’t been vaccinated because his natural immunity is better than that provided by so-called Covid vaccines. Government: “Follow the science” Doctor: "The science isn't strong enough"pic.twitter.com/MEFK7qCrKS— Calvin (@calvinrobinson) January 7, 2022 “I’m not happy about that,” James told the health secretary. “So, I’ve had COVID at some point, I’ve got antibodies, and I’ve been working on COVID ICU since the beginning,” the ICU doctor stated. “I have not had a vaccination, I do not want to have a vaccination. The vaccines are reducing transmission only for about eight weeks for Delta, with Omicron it’s probably less,” James said, speaking to the jabs’ reported waning efficacy. “And for that, I would be dismissed if I don’t have a vaccine? The science isn’t strong enough,” James said. Javid responded, “I respect that, but there’s also many different views. I understand it, and obviously we have to weigh all that up for both health and social care, and there will always be a debate about it.” James fired back, saying he’d sooner advise unvaccinated people not to get the jab so they can enjoy the benefits of natural immunity, rather than suffer monthly booster jabs." Infowars Article People who are jabbed still get sick and spread the viruses. That is not 'wonderfully'!
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