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nwr
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Message 34 of 208 (312621)
05-16-2006 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by iano
05-16-2006 9:37 PM


Re: Lake EvC
iano writes:
Until life gets a hold of them... certainly
You probably missed the joke, not being American. It was a reference to Lake Wobegon

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nwr
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Message 81 of 208 (312990)
05-17-2006 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Faith
05-17-2006 6:19 PM


Re: Logic
Logic as Robin has most often used it is not "casual" it's the official meaning outside the technical mathematical forms. He uses it to argue philosophical points, not political opinions. It's the meaning that pertains to language, that can be expressed by a syllogism and violated by fallacies.
Using logic, as you just described it, requires carefully stating the premises, and then drawing conclusions. Robin often has not been doing that. People have challenged him to clearly state the premises being used, and he has evaded those challenges.
Challenging Robin to clearly state his premises is not snobbery. While some such arguments fail due to fallacious logic, the usual problem is the use of a faulty premise. Naturally, people want to be able to question his premises.

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nwr
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Message 85 of 208 (313010)
05-17-2006 11:16 PM
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05-17-2006 10:30 PM


Re: Logic
No, they've been saying that I'm stupid and I don't have degrees from world-class institutions.
I think you are reading that into what is said.
It is my impression that you are held in considerable respect. Nevertheless, when you present weak arguments, people point this out to you.
Maybe I am merely stating my own view and reading that into what others say. I guess it is hard to know. I see it as a sign of respect that people are willing to take the time to answer your arguments.

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nwr
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Message 110 of 208 (313051)
05-18-2006 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by robinrohan
05-18-2006 2:02 AM


Re: FSM
That will not do, unless you can suggest how FSM is different from God.
At the time, I thought the FSM was a bit silly.
Nitpicking satire is even sillier.

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