The problem with EVC

Send them to church.

Thanks for understanding how that was meant.

If you think it is important or a particularly good point --- KEEP REMINDING! Many things get 'ignored' just because there is too much to keep up with. Really ignoring a point is an admission of inability to answer it. Force that out. That isn't the forum it is individuals and up to you to work on.From the vally floor between Whistler and Blackcomb on a glorious spring skiing day. I'll report back in later after being fried crispy in the sun.

On the logic topic the science side has nothing additional to learn. Did you not "get" the problem of proving things "logically"without using the right "logic"? You don't accept most things just because it seems "logical" to any body do you?We all know and understand that unfounded opinions don't count. You don't automatically trust the used car or door to door huster do you? Don't you want some evidence of their claims? To the degree that we don't accept claims by just anyone without support we all also agree that evidence is requiered to convince us.Some people require high standards of reason and evidence in more areas than others. I'm not aware of anyone who doesn't requie some in some areas.Edited by NosyNed, : fix tags