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Author Topic:   Jihadists must die, --- but our real enemies are the Qur’an and Bible.
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Message 3 of 375 (751091)
02-27-2015 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
02-26-2015 7:30 PM


Should our women not also be free and equal?
This extends far beyond the religious. The present BS going on with MRAs and their violent bullying in secular circles is not so much a religious thing as it is a stupid male privilege thing. There is much work to be done all around.
Should secular governments pick up the pace and shed ourselves of the misogynous Qur’an and Bible. (?)
Should we urge our governments to force changes to the violent misogynistic Qur’an and Bible to make those documents more civilized?
No. Not if you want freedom of conscience for yourself. If you take it from one you take it from all.
Government has no place in the process. Education is the road to follow. Let those books die a natural death in an educated secular society.

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Message 7 of 375 (751124)
02-27-2015 2:03 PM
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02-27-2015 10:16 AM


WTF?
10 years and all you can manage is 10,000 posts?
Slackard!
Congrats, Cat Sci.

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Message 13 of 375 (751181)
02-28-2015 2:21 PM
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02-28-2015 12:58 PM


How long should we tell women, even in the West, that they have to wait for a better education system before expecting any form of equality under the law?
In most western nations women do have equality under law. The government has done what it needed to do. The problem is misogyny still exists in segments of society despite the law. That is a social enlightenment (read education) problem not one the government can change with religious censorship.
In those backass places where misogyny itself is the law of the land then the government needs to be changed and that can only come about with social enlightenment (read education) and probably bloody revolution.
You go ahead and tell your wives and daughters you want to destroy their legal guarantee of freedom of conscience in order to save them. See how that fits.

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Message 25 of 375 (751240)
03-01-2015 3:19 PM
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03-01-2015 2:12 PM


What are women up to now in terms of equal pay for equal work? 80% of so. Right?
Social Enlightenment. Education. Not censorship.
If we do not walk our talk in the West, it is not surprising that those who we criticise ignore us.
And your solution for this is to scrap the First Amendment. Real good.

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Message 33 of 375 (751386)
03-02-2015 5:01 PM
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03-02-2015 9:56 AM


The First is first.
Remember that Kitzmiller v Dover involved private citizens suing a government entity for violating the Constitution.
What does anyone imagine would happen if the government attempted Greatest's proposal?

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Message 131 of 375 (759198)
06-09-2015 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
06-09-2015 8:07 AM


Re: "But the second stone, up for grabs."
Call Jesus a lawbreaker you can crucify Him.
Just like gays in Christian America. Call them breakers of your interpretation of your book's law and you take license to crucify them.

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