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The idea that Trump plans to stay in office beyond the normal terms is so absurd there was nothing to answer. That's part of the paranoia I was talking about. The things you all think about him are outside any set of facts that make any sense at all to me.

Maybe I'll try to come back and say something sensible about that weird list of lies about me and about Trump, but it's so depressing I'm not sure.

I know better than to take anything straight that a leftist tells me, JF, sorry. If you are right it sounds like a terrible thing, but I'm likely to find out that it means something entirely different than you present it and since I've heard about it from no other source than you I'm sorry but I don't trust it enough to comment. The whole point is to be able to accuse me of something really scurrilous like approving of killing immigrants, the whole leftist method is to trap people in such things in order to make us out to be monsters. That's what you do to Trump. There is no reason at all to think you have any kind of reasonable understanding of any of these things and I don't want to find out later that your version is so twisted I should never have accepted it and that does happen.

Since his first term has been stolen from him by political subterfuges unprecedented in history, of course he'd like to have more of a chance to do what he set out to do, but that has to be all he's saying.

How well you guys can rationalize away the perfidies of the Left. No other President has ever had to endure such treatment. It is not checks and balances, it is pure political obstructionism. There is supposed to be a period of grace given to a President for his first month at least, and all Presidents get that from a civilized opposition, but there is no civility any more, the Left started right out trying to pin any kind of accusation on him that they could dream up, just one false slimy evil low accusation after another. This is really indefensible though apparently you all think it's just fine to mistreat him and his supporters for purely political reasons, and even give this low behavior a noble-sounding Constitution-based name. This is, frankly, disgusting and unAmerican. Don't think his supporters don't see it for what it is.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Personal attacks are not supposed to be accepted here, jar.

What was said about Obama was the truth, quite a different thing from what the Left is doing to Trump.

You continue to be very good at rationalizing the unconscionable. The checks and balances are built into our institutions. All the Left is doing is political obstructionism. It's incessant, has given not one moment of grace to the man, and it's all lies: Trump does NOT deserve it. He has not committed any illegal actions, that's all fake news, completely made up. A long investigation tried to prove illegal actions and proved absolutely not even one. And the "morally bankrupt policies" are nothing but Leftist political lies. You don't like his policies, that's all. They are perfectly reasonable conservative policies for the most part and the Left hates them for that reason only and won't even try to be reasonable about it or seek discussion or compromise, it's all stonewalling and obstruction. Everything you've said is nothing but political bias, and that is NOT checks and balances, that's arrogant Leftism and nothing else. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Being in office while every moment his political enemies are telling lies about him in the media and calling his every move illegitimate when it's not and threatening to impeach him or have him jailed, supporting an investigation based on nothing but lies only to harass him and impede his work, refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions. THAT is how his term has been stolen from him.

Obama was not treated at all as Trump is treated. He was criticized in the particular ways you brought up but I believe they are true of him. He went to a "Christian" church whose pastor did nothing but hate America, that's hardly a Christian church; and he bowed to Muslim leaders and obviously favored them, even apologized for America. Obama was a traitor in my opinion. Oh and his own Kenyan grandmother said she saw him in the hospital there when he was born. All the rationalizations of that one are laughable.But he was not hounded and harassed as Trump is from one moment to the next, the press was on his side instead of incessantly lying about him, insinuating all sorts of illegalities he did not commit, inventing an investigation into phony misdeeds and so on and so forth. Comparing Trump's situation to Obama's is way out of proportion, there is no moral equivalence whatever.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Congress many times voted for a wall on the border; those who now object to it and do everything they can to undermine the effort voted for it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Do you guys never stop with the lying accusations?

Even I've given up on it because it's so aggressively denied who wants to keep getting hit over the head about it. But his Kenyan grandmother clearly said she saw him when he was born there. All the rest is forgeries and deceptions.

That is utterly ridiculous. Nobody was asking about his father but everybody wanted to know about her grandson. Don't be silly.

Oh give it up, that's ridiculous. The whole village was talking about her illustrious grandson since he moved up in American politics and as President of the United States, wow, you think she'd think they were asking about her son???. DO NOT TRY TO PRETEND YOU BELIEVE THAT BLATANT LIE. Give it a really good careful look some time. It's an obvious forgery. Now we get the change of subject. Are you admitting he was born in Kenya? That would be the sensible thing to do since obviously he was. And deeper we go into the deception, change of subject, etc. Just admit he was born in Kenya, the grandmother couldn't have meant anyone else. Finally, come clean. We can talk about the Constitutional issues lasEdited by Faith, : No reason given.