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Percy
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Message 86 of 210 (168955)
12-16-2004 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Maestro232
12-16-2004 2:24 PM


Maestro232 writes:
Repetition of experiment: Have faith in God as Loving Creator
Result: God shows Himself clearly to that person
Repeat that several million times and you have a pretty defendable method I'd say.
Sounds good to me, unless you're proposing that science work the same way.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 99 of 210 (168992)
12-16-2004 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Maestro232
12-16-2004 2:29 PM


Maestro232 writes:
I am saying that at a basic level this is true.
Okay, then let's examine the specifics of what you said in Message 86:
Repetition of experiment: Have faith in God as Loving Creator
Result: God shows Himself clearly to that person
Repeat that several million times and you have a pretty defendable method I'd say.
Do you believe science should be conducted with the same rigour displayed by this experiment, because there are questions that naturally arise from your proposal. Do you propose taking a person's word for whether they have faith in God, and for whether God has revealed himself to them? If so, then this is contrary to normal scientific protocols where the demands of objectivity require eliminating personal beliefs and biases. If you accept that these protocols should be followed in your experiment, then we're in agreement, and I would only ask how you propose objectively establishing a person's faith and whether God has revealed himself to them.
But if you're instead proposing that science should accept subjective opinions and feelings as evidence (except, of course, in pschology where subjective realities are the objects of study), then we disagree.
--Percy

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