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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Jesus and GOD were never meant to be separate and neither was the Holy Spirit...of which there would be no need for were "it" separate. Yawn. Have you ever read the Bible or the Creeds or ANY basic Christian history? Where does Jesus sit?
Phat writes: And yet you call the concept "silly". Did it ever occur to you that modern day logic does no service to belief in God? What ends up happening is a heresey much like your claim that Jesus was simply human while on earth and that the resurrection was nothing unique to Him that the rest of us won't experience. Which borders on blasphemy. Again, you are simply puking dogma. I have presented the reasoned argument to you on why Jesus was only human to you many, many times over the years here and you have NEVER provided a reasoned rebuttal.
Phat writes: The story includes God (Holy Father) and Jesus, the Son of Man.(and the Son of God) Satan is a character.The supernatural exists, as does the power of God incarnate.It is folly to try and explain the tales in modern terms for you reduce them to stories that we ourselves could fulfill. Jesus becomes just another human and GOD again becomes unknowable and an irrelevant Mystery. We are not secular humanists nor were we ever meant to be. And so once again absolutely no attempt at any form of reasoned argument, simply more word salad and dogma.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Its because your reason isnt reasonable. You are breaking down the supernatural into natural explanations. LOL; so unnatural explanations are ...? Once again Phat, you fail to provide any reasoned arguments or offer any reasoned explanation for the Trinity as marketed by much of modern Christianity. But that's okay, modern Christianity fails at that as well.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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No one has ever done genocide more efficiently and effectively than Christianity although the US runs a close second.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
The Christianity of today is showing all of the very worst traits of Christianity in the past. Someone needs to remind Christians that they are behaving as evil demons.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The concept of the "Trinity" was created as a political tool during a struggle between opposing Chapters of Early Proto-Christianity. It's meaning was that one group were REAL Christians while the other was excluded from the power and control hierarchy. It was successful and so became a touchstone for defining who was politically in power and who was not.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What does any of your post have to do with the origin and purpose of the Trinity Doctrine?
What is the topic of this thread?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL
What is the title of the topic?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And genocide is more than just killing individuals, it is the destruction and eradication of cultures and languages and histories and societies and ...
Christianity and if you want a Nation, the United States have been and are still striving to become the masters of genocide.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: But it is real. He is real. He is alive. And yet in a couple decades now you have never been able to explain what that even means. And it also has nothing to do with the topic which is "The Meaning Of The Trinity" or provide any counter evidence or reasoned argument to refute what I have posted. The Trinity in Christianity is called the Great Mystery because, quite honestly, it makes no sense. It is based on almost no Biblical support. It cannot rationally be explained. But it is an article of belief that was created primarily as a political tool to exclude certain power groups and bases. The concept of the "Trinity" was created as a political tool during a struggle between opposing Chapters of Early Proto-Christianity. It's meaning was that one group were REAL Christians while the other was excluded from the power and control hierarchy. It was successful and so became a touchstone for defining who was politically in power and who was not.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Early Christianity avoided politics, according to the wisdom of its Jewish founder. Render unto Caesar what is Caesars...and all that.Was it Saul/Paul who dragged the growing church into politics? Or was it later...when the five cities became a split in 1066? Nonsense Phat. Don't you know anything at all about Christian history? You can't get any earlier into Christianity than Peter & Paul and all of the other early Chapters. Again though, can you at least try to address the topic?
Phat writes: As a Christian, do you in any way believe that Jesus is real? What does that even mean? You never seem to answer that. And why would it even matter?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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A Memorable History of England, Comprising All the Parts You Can Remember, Including 103 Good Things, 5 Bad Kings and 2 Genuine Dates.
But it does make far more sense than the Trinity.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Its not what The Trinity© stands for politically. Its what Christians think it means. (and there is no consensus) LOL Think about that sentence Phat. "Its what Christians think it means. (and there is no consensus)" There is no consensus because it really has no meaning other than as a slogan to define who is in and who is out. That's politics.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Basics Phat, basics.
The topic. Try to address the topic. Stop trying to deny facts like Christian & US genocide.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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As usual, your post has absolutely nothing to do with the message to which you are replying.
And can you even read the things you quote? Did you read "... adding that there are no plans to “to abolish or substantially revise” the existing liturgy." Can you understand that sentence?
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