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Topic: The Meaning Of The Trinity
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Message 1594 of 1864 (909456)
04-04-2023 9:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 1592 by candle2
04-04-2023 8:11 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
candle writes: atan's deception becomes so great that even God's elect could be deceived if God did not keep them focused. Matthew 24:24. “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1598 of 1864 (909476)
04-04-2023 12:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1597 by Dredge
04-04-2023 11:41 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
So, given your quote, isn't it time you stopped making atheist scientists your bogeyman?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1600 of 1864 (909483)
04-04-2023 1:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 1599 by candle2
04-04-2023 1:20 PM
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"Villain, I have done thy mother" Shakespeare
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1629 of 1864 (909632)
04-07-2023 3:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 1627 by Dredge
04-07-2023 1:10 AM
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Re: Burning The Cardinal At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Catholics are sinners just like everyone else ... which doesn't disprove my claim that the CC is the one, true Church founded by Jesus Christ. Catholics are people just like everyone else. People founded the RC Church, not gods. The RC Church is behaving like any other manmade corrupt and insular cult that believes itself to be beyond the laws of man. And it's been that way since its beginning. What kind of lessor god would build and tolerate such a thing?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1630 of 1864 (909633)
04-07-2023 3:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 1628 by Dredge
04-07-2023 1:19 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Yes indeed ... the unholy altar-boy-molesting homosexuals hiding amongst the Church's clergy have done a great deal of damage. Weed out the queers and the problem will become virtually non-existent. One of the many things that sicken me about you fundamentalists is how totally un-Christian you are. I'm an atheist, but I'm ten times the Christian you are. Putting aside the disgusting prejudice displayed in your statement, the Roman Catholic Church as an institution did the opposite of “weeding out the queers”, it hid them, protected them and moved them around so that they could abuse even more. It put - and is still putting - its own brand management above its duty to protect children. A very human and corrupt institution - no god involved.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
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Message 1649 of 1864 (909753)
04-10-2023 1:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 1648 by Dredge
04-10-2023 12:47 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Nothing wrong with a prejudice based on facts. The wrong is in your obvious homophobic hate and the inference that all homosexuals are child abusers.
It's a fact that more than 90% of the sexual-abuse-of-minors cases in the Catholic Church involve queers molesting boys. It's also a fact that 90% of the sexual-abuse-of-minors cases in the Catholic Church involve the clergy. I also note your indifference to the institutional cover-up.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
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Message 1652 of 1864 (909756)
04-10-2023 3:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 1650 by Dredge
04-10-2023 3:01 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Turns out Christians aren't actually Christian.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1660 of 1864 (909765)
04-11-2023 3:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 1654 by Dredge
04-10-2023 7:55 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Quick ... tell Jesus!!
That's neither possible nor necessary. Your guy made it very clear what is needed to be a Christian. “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: Just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.” (John 13:34, ESV). There are no exceptions that allow you to hate homosexuals or any other kind of person in that commandment Edited by Tangle, .
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1663 of 1864 (909786)
04-11-2023 12:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 1661 by Dredge
04-11-2023 5:09 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Quick ... tell Jesus!! Jesus is commanding YOU to love others. No exceptions for race, religion, gender or proclivities. Even your enemy. Real Christians know this.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Member Posts: 9517 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1665 of 1864 (909792)
04-11-2023 1:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 1664 by Dredge
04-11-2023 12:48 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
I quoted Jesus's actual words from your book. He commands you to love others, even your enemies. When he asks you why you thought it ok to hate some groups are you going to show him the small print, your hoped for loopholes? I think he'll show you the other door and introduce you to the other anonymous frauds that sneaked their way into your corrupted little book. Christian my arse.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1669 of 1864 (909800)
04-11-2023 1:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 1668 by Dredge
04-11-2023 1:34 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
You have to choose - whose words will you follow Paul's or Jesus' own? It's a commandment from Jesus, your god. Best get it right eh?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1674 of 1864 (909843)
04-12-2023 2:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 1672 by Dredge
04-11-2023 8:31 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
So you have Jesus Christ himself - a god - in his own words commanding you to love everybody even your enemies, and you have a guy called Paul who never even met Jesus, giving you a few exceptions to this commandment years later. And you choose to ignore the love commandment and choose the hate message instead. Interesting gamble. Good luck with it.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1676 of 1864 (909845)
04-12-2023 5:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 1675 by Dredge
04-12-2023 4:50 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: You dont seem to understand the difference between hating what queers do and hating the person. A very old and tired defence of the ignorant prejudiced, but if you're confident that your Lord and Saviour, can look into your mind and see nothing of hatred for the “queers” that you wish to “weed out”, then fine, it's your soul not mine that will be judged.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1678 of 1864 (909894)
04-12-2023 1:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 1677 by Dredge
04-12-2023 10:16 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Sorry, but I don't buy your kindergarten version of Christianity. It's not me you need to be apologising to, you believe that you will be judged on your words thoughts and deeds not me. It's your soul at stake not mine. Good luck explaining you horrible prejudices to your all knowing maker. Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read it?" He answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbour as yourself." He said to him, "You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live." But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, "Who is my neighbor?" — Luke 10:25–29, World English Bible[4] Jesus replies with a story: Jesus answered, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he travelled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the host, and said to him, 'Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.' Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbor to him who fell among the robbers?" He said, "He who showed mercy on him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise." — Luke 10:30–37, World English Bible[5]
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Message 1680 of 1864 (909900)
04-12-2023 5:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 1679 by Dredge
04-12-2023 4:55 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes: Yes ... and likewise, if a queer is injured or sick, it is my Christian duty to care for him ... even if he has AIDS as a result of his abominable sexual perversion. Your Saviour asks more of you though doesn't He? He asks not just that tend begrudgingly to his physical needs, He asks that you love him. Your God will know what you really think, and lawyer, if you can't fool me, what chance of fooling your Christ? You condemn yourself with your own words.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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