There you Go,YECs...biblical "evidence" of "flat earth beliefs"

After reading these, I myself am not too convinced that these are statements indicating belief that the world is flat.The expression "end of the Earth" is still used today, even by people who know damn-well that the Earth is round. As for the other writings about the firmness of the Earth, all they could prove is that people in those times beleived the Earth was stationary in space, something we already know about them.J0N

Actually, that God and Jesus are the same in spirit is a pretty crucial point to Christianity. I do not think this passage is figurative.

We know that they beleived the world to be flat, but these statements are not statements which are set for exchanging those beliefs. They are not expressing their belief in a flat earth any more than a person of modern times is expressing a belief in a flat Earth if they were to use such a statement.A more clear reference to the flat-Earth belief of the time will have to be given if you are to convince even an anti-Bible person that the Bible teaches such concepts.J0N

I guess by anti-Bible person I meant someone who argues against the truth of the Bible with someone who firmly believes it. A lot of things in the Bible can be used to show that it is not an overly reliable source (most especially for science information), but there is no indication that these passages speak to a lack of understanding by the ancients.Even though they DID think the Earth was flat, these statements do not show that, nor do they convince me that God was teaching people the world was flat.J0N

Are you suggesting that anyone other than a jungle person would realistically believe the world to be flat?J0NEdited by Jon, : Fixed word choice.

The problem is that these passages say nothing that would indicate a flat Earth.Imagine living in a hole your entire life. You come out one day, and there in front of the hole is a copy of the Bible; you flip through it. Seeing a couple verses highlighted, you stop, you read them, you consider them.Knowing nothing about anything, would you draw the conclusion from those few verses that the Earth is flat? Perhaps that the Earth does not move, even that it comes to an end somewhere (maybe like an arch), or you might assume it is flat. That you can interpret the statement "end of the Earth" in many ways should be proof that its meaning is NOT intended to show the Earth as flat. Then again, the writers of the Bible had a habbit of beating around the bush.Was this written in Hebrew? I believe Earth, land, country, etc. all use the same word. Perhaps this really means "end of the land." And in past times, even when it was believed the Earth to be spherical, many people in the area believed there to be land on only one side of it.Arach? Perhaps you could add something to this What is the original Hebrew of this text saying?J0N