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Author Topic:   There you Go,YECs...biblical "evidence" of "flat earth beliefs"
rmwilliamsjr
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Message 83 of 243 (32938)
02-23-2003 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Trogdor
02-21-2003 2:31 PM


I am new to the board so i have been spending time reading the past postings. Now it is a little hard to catch up on a nearly 1 year old thread. but it is interesting that this thread on the cosmology of the ancient hebrews can only exist when everyone takes the Bible in a literal manner.
it is obvious that the hebrew scriptures teach a babylonian cosmology. flat earth with a solid firmament overhead. two kinds of stars, fixed and not fixed. the earth is still and either the vault overhead moves or the points of light move inside it.
and with conservative traditional Christian hermenutics this is to be expected. God did not overwhelm the cultural historical linguistic complex when He caused the authors to write Scripture. If God had desired to He could have used quarks in Genesis, or whatever they will be known as in 1000 years from now. but why would He? they would have no meaning to the original audience of the Scriptures. quarks presuppose an entirely different kind of culture history language. it would have been meaningless to all people up to the point where the ideas where first proposed in the 20thC. what good would this serve the intervening 3000 years?
It is only where the Biblical conversation is dominated by a modern mindset, complete with its need to explain things scientifically, which takes the Scriptures all too literally and asks the wrong questions at the level of hermenutics. The YEC propose a modern hermenutic which as a first principle makes the literal, man-in-the-street, common sense reading the principle interpretive hermenutical principle. The problem is that they use a modern 20thC (ok maybe 19thC) man-in-the-street, and dont allow for common sense to be very culture bound.
Their opponents, to their great surprise at how easy the argument becomes against such a truncated hermenutic, jump in with both feet and show how this is simply wrong if not stupid. But both sides miss the principle that Scripture is first to be interpreted as it was delivered to the first audience, not us.
richard williams
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