Biblical contradictions II

Theologian63 wrote:

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God's realtionship to us is much like that of father and child. The father has total authority over the child but often lets the child experience pain or joy or suffering to teach the child something.

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Hi, Theologian. I just wanted to pick up this point. What do you believe God is teaching when he lets a child be born so deformed that for a few hours or days she exists in agony, and then dies. I don't mean what is God teaching the parents or anyone else - what is he teaching the child?------------------
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As I recall, the study is bogus - as many people gained weight at death as lost it. Much more likely, therefore, that we're talking about inaccuracy in the scale, not a material weight of souls.

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This study was apparently done in 1907 and published in "American Medicine magazine". The link below describes it as a possible Christian urban legend. In any case, it describes the number of subjects as five. It doesn't mention whether the dogs used for comparison also died of TB (I suspect not) - which means the experiment was not properly controlled.http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/jan2003/msg00725.html
(scroll down one third of the screen, or FIND the word "soul" to jump to the right part)------------------
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Theologian wrote:

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You can throw up hypotheticals all day. What you don't realise is that GOD doesn't make the deformed, SIN does.

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I thought everything that happened was as God willed it?

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God intitiated the process by giving us reproductive organs but the results are limited to the chemical make-up of the parents. The cleaner the life of the parents, the less the chance of deformity. My sister died at the age of 2 from a blocked kidney. Prior to her birth, my parents were both heavy drinkers of alchohol.

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But your SISTER was not a heavy drinker. Yet she was the one who was "deformed". Or is this one of those "sins of the father will be visited..." - another bible contradiction.

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God never intended for us to have chemicals put into our bodies. It's obvious these poisons will cause adverse effects.

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You are confusing known biological causes with sin. Are you suggesting that every deformed or sick baby results from the parents sinning? This means that, statistically, the people most pleasing in God's eyes should have the fewest deformed children. This is clearly not the case.You have also entirely ignored inherited genetic defects caused by the parents' *God-given* faulty genes - these are the kinds of deformities I was refering to with my "hypothetical" baby who dies young.------------------
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Theologian wrote:Abortionists are filling up Heaven with each one they perform.

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MattS wrote: Interesting. So heaven is "filling up" - I hope it's not too full when I arrive at the pearly gates. That's a perfect example of a supernatural concept (heaven) being the result of man's active imagination.

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...In addition maybe the abortionists are doing the unborn a favor - by giving them an express pass to the promised land. Is that such a bad thing - if that's the real goal of our existence anyway? Just some food for thought.

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I notice Theologian responded to your pearly gate comment and failed to reply to the logic in your subsequent comment in the same post. Why did that happen? Theologian?------------------
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ROFL!!!! Her Holiness? Someone watches too much Saturday morning TV.
BTW, He-man is NOT the master of the universe, Jesus IS!

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ROFL!!!! Jesus is master of the universe? Someone reads too much bible.------------------
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True, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. And I would say YES, it was a miracle. AGAIN, I believe GOD made all physical laws ergo HE can change them or supsend or do ANYTHING HE wishes to them.
...... I find the Bible to be a valid source for ALL my arguements yet you and the others have failed to cite supporting evidence SOURCES.

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I don't think this is really true. The physics alluded to here can be found in any high school text and is accepted by all scientists working in the field. Given that such basic physics accurately describes the observed universe in all other respects, for what reason do you think such a source is wrong about this particular issue? I would like a reason external to the bible.For example, an external reason for why it *didn't* happen would be the lack of corroboration of such an amazing global event in other cultures' histories or myths. Do you know of any? (I haven't researched this so I don't know.)------------------
o--greyline--o[This message has been edited by greyline, 08-09-2003]