Condemn gay marriage, or just gay rape?

Apparently you didn't pay attention during English class.There is a very distinct difference between something being mentioned and something having an effect on the plot.If you want to "count" the Almighty's in Job, why don't you check context to see how many of those involve sentences in which the Almighty has an action.My guess is that the vast majority of them are things like: "Why has the Almighty foresaken me?"That's not a character involved in the plot except through INACTION.You could replace the vast majority of God's role in Job with a wheelbarrow and have the same exact results.Let's see:There exists a man who loves a wheelbarrow.
The devil comes to the wheelbarrow and says, "Hey, I'm going to mess with this dude and see if he still likes you."
The wheelbarrow does not stop the devil from doing this.
The Devil punishes Job, MURDERS HIS WHOLE FAMILY!!!, destroys his business, his home, his animals.
The whole time, the friends of Job say, "Job, why do you still love the wheelbarrow, it has done nothing to help you."
Job replies, "The wheelbarrow is great and powerful, it is not my place to question the wheelbarrow."In the end the wheelbarrow tells the Devil to cut it out and Job gets on with his life.With the SOLE exception of "telling the devil to cut it out", the role of God is perfectly adequately played by a standard home depot wheelbarrow in this book.Interestingly enough, the same holds true for the vast majority of the Bible.Jesus on the cross: "Oh wheelbarrow, why hast though foresaken me?"
The wheelbarrow doesn't reply.

I find it often the case that when some readers have a fantasy, they look for any excuse to declare that fantasy a reality and try and belittle anyone who doesn't buy into their fantasy.Here's a tip for debating on the forums. If you don't have anything which refutes the point made it's better to shut up than post some passive aggressive bullshit.Your response doesn't address the point at all.I'll take that as an admission that you are wrong, that you recognize that you have no basis for rebuttal, and that you are incapable of stating as much because doing so would require acknowledging that your make believe isn't even sufficiently built to be internally consistent.Exactly what we expect to see.

Okay, I admit, I haven't read the ENTIRE thread.Please clarify your position slightly.Are you saying:
A) Gay marriage is wrong based on Christian ideology and therefore Christians have the right to deny gay couples from being married by the church.
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B) Gay marriage is wrong based on Christian ideology and therefore the government should not allow it.These are two extremely different things and frequently Christians misunderstand marriage entirely.Your church can no marry you. God can not marry you. Your priest can not marry you. The _only_ marriage that counts is a legal contract between two consenting adult which it officiated by a sanctioned individual and signed by a witness.That official can be Christian, Hindu, Jedi, a sea captain or a federal judge (among other things).If you get the license and don't have a wedding in a church - you ARE married.
If you have a wedding in a church but don't have a license - you are NOT married.So, are you arguing against civil rights based on your feelings about what the Bible may or may not have to say about it?Or are you saying, "Well, they can have their civil rights, but I'm not going to like it".Because, if you are saying that latter, there's really no need for discussion. You have a right to your opinion and no one should bother trying to change it. So long as your opinion has not effect whatsoever on the lives of others, more power to you.

And according to the Harry Potter books, magic wands really work.The FACT of the matter is this: If you go into a church and have a service performed, you can call yourself married, but you aren't. Not in the eyes of the law.If your counter argument is that law doesn't count, and that your religion is the governing factor in whether or not you are married, then I counter with this:If you expect ME to respect YOUR religious beliefs regarding YOUR marriage, then YOU must likewise be willing to respect ANYONE ELSE'S religious beliefs regarding THEIR marriage.In other words, if ANY church/temple/mosque/prayer circle/coven/whatever is willing to perform a marriage, then that person - by YOUR standard of belief - is in fact married in the eyes of whatever magical wizard that group claims provides over their rituals.You DON'T get to declare your beliefs dominant over all others simply because you had the misfortune of being born to a woman who happens to follow one kind of belief instead of another. Then it should be within God's infinite power to undo the marriage without any assistance from you or your religious friends.