Condemn gay marriage, or just gay rape?

marriage by definition relates to male/female relationships ... it did so in the bible, and it does so in every nation on earth todayif gays want to create a word that defines their own relationship, they should do thatmost of them are fairly creative people... surely they can put their heads together and come up with something

same sex marriage has all happened in recent timeskeep it in context please.

the color of a persons skin wasnt an issue until the slave tradeyour clutching at straws

but it wasnt a precedentlook back thru history and you'll see that people were not divided by the color of their skin but by the value of their fortunesit wasnt until the slave trade of recent times that division was due to the color of the skin

not at all, im im wrong im wrongbut the discussion was about the traditional male/female marriage which has been an institution since ancient timeshe said that there are plenty of nations where it does not represent male/female relationships and proceeded to mention countries that have legalised gay marriagewere we not talking about the original institution of marriage as being a male/female one ?

Ha!
i mentioned that the traditional 'marriage' and its designation has always been an institution of male/female relationshipsIs that wrong? incorrect?? contrary in anyway to what the institution of marriage has always been??? you mention something that was completely out of context because these gay marriages are only recent advancements. They have not been a part of the traditional institution of marriage hence why this thread is even being discussedit was completely out of context

the blatant falsehoods come into play when you take things out of context, which you've managed to do again!please note wikipedias use of the word 'UNION' from the link you posted. World's first modern legally recognized same-sex unions are called "registered partnerships" and its all come about in the last few decades.If as you say, marriage is not soley for the institution of male/female relations, why is it such a legal issue? and where is the history of male/male marriages??

My apologies, i see this is where i went wrong
"marriage by definition relates to male/female relationships it did so in the bible, and it does so in every nation on earth today"sure, i'll conceed that point... there are a few nations who now recognise same sex marriage which has happened of latethe point remains though (what i was originally trying to say) that the traditional marriage is an institution of the male/female relationshipArticle 16 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights declares that "Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses."perhaps when all nations eventually accept same sex marriage, they will need to change article 16.

for arguments sake, im going to conceed to your greater wisdom in this areai'll stick with my simple solution that if they want to marry, let them...and hopefully they find a nice gay name for their unions so we can differentiate between hetrosexual marriage and homosexual marriage