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Huntard
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Message 136 of 404 (568947)
07-19-2010 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by DevilsAdvocate
07-18-2010 7:08 AM


Re: Droppin knowledge, you better recognize.
DevilsAdvocate writes:
Why do we let blatant racism run rampant here?
Because it exposes it for what it is. Something the human species can easily do without.
Go take your KKK, white supremacism to some other forum.
But it's so much fun to tell people they're bigotted fuckwits and see them fly of the handle, all "I've got black friends!" like.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 137 of 404 (568948)
07-19-2010 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Huntard
07-19-2010 4:58 AM


Re: Droppin knowledge, you better recognize.
Huntard writes:
Because it exposes it for what it is. Something the human species can easily do without.
Agreed, it was more of a rhetorical question.
But it's so much fun to tell people they're bigotted fuckwits and see them fly of the handle, all "I've got black friends!" like.
LOL, it is sad people like this still exist.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 138 of 404 (568955)
07-19-2010 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by DevilsAdvocate
07-18-2010 7:08 AM


Re: Droppin knowledge, you better recognize.
KKK, white supremacy, LOL.
Because they allow blatant ignorance, and blatant ad hominem, like your self.

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Theodoric
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Message 139 of 404 (568958)
07-19-2010 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by Artemis Entreri
07-19-2010 8:58 AM


Re: Droppin knowledge, you better recognize.
Because they allow blatant ignorance, and blatant ad hominem, like your self.
Who allows this?
Black? Jews?
Please explain what you mean? You might want try something like evidence to back up your assertions. I realize that is difficult for you, but if you want to convince people to agree with your argument, evidence helps.

Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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riVeRraT
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Message 140 of 404 (568971)
07-19-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by DrJones*
07-06-2010 1:11 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
"DrJones" writes:
False of course. By being cautious about muslims because their beliefs don't align with yours you are i nfact holding those beliefs against them.
There are all kinds of muslims. Some of them are radical, and believe in harming anyone who doesn't think like them. When they act out those beliefs, yes I have a problem with it, and hold those beliefs against them because they are against the law. Are you saying we should let people murder others because they believe they are doing the right thing?

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DrJones*
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Message 141 of 404 (568981)
07-19-2010 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 10:37 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
There are all kinds of muslims
True but you didn't specify that in your original statement, just that you're cautious around them because their beliefs don't align with yours. Of course being cautious about all muslims because some muslims have radical ideas is holding the beliefs of those radicals against all muslims.
Are you saying we should let people murder others because they believe they are doing the right thing?
Of course not, but that wasnt what we were talking about.

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soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
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jar
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Message 142 of 404 (568983)
07-19-2010 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 10:37 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
riVeRraT writes:
There are all kinds of muslims. Some of them are radical, and believe in harming anyone who doesn't think like them. When they act out those beliefs, yes I have a problem with it, and hold those beliefs against them because they are against the law. Are you saying we should let people murder others because they believe they are doing the right thing?
What beliefs are against the law?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 143 of 404 (569003)
07-19-2010 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Artemis Entreri
07-19-2010 8:58 AM


Re: Droppin knowledge, you better recognize.
KKK, white supremacy, LOL.
Because they allow blatant ignorance, and blatant ad hominem, like your self.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...
I have no problem wth ad hominem attacks against blatant racists and bigots.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 144 of 404 (569004)
07-19-2010 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 10:37 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
Riverat writes:
There are all kinds of muslims. Some of them are radical, and believe in harming anyone who doesn't think like them. When they act out those beliefs, yes I have a problem with it, and hold those beliefs against them because they are against the law. Are you saying we should let people murder others because they believe they are doing the right thing?
Now replace with this:
There are all kinds of christians/mormons/baptists/hindus/budhists/agnostics/atheists/ aka HUMANS. Some of them are radical, and believe in harming anyone who doesn't think like them. When they act out those beliefs, yes I have a problem with it, and hold those beliefs against them because they are against the law. Are you saying we should let people murder others because they believe they are doing the right thing?
In otherwords no human is immune from acting radically and irrationally, regardless of race, color, creed, nationality, ethnicity age, sex or religion. To say other wise is stereotyping i.e. racism/agism/sexism/etc and is itself irrational.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 145 of 404 (569006)
07-19-2010 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by jar
07-19-2010 12:21 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
"jar" writes:
What beliefs are against the law?
The answer is right there in my quote.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 146 of 404 (569007)
07-19-2010 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 6:54 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
Beliefs are NOT against the Law, at least in the US unless you can point out where that happens to be true.
Edited by jar, : hit key too soon.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 446 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 147 of 404 (569008)
07-19-2010 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by DevilsAdvocate
07-19-2010 6:06 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
"DevilsAdvocate" writes:
In otherwords no human is immune from acting radically and irrationally, regardless of race, color, creed, nationality, ethnicity age, sex or religion. To say other wise is stereotyping i.e. racism/agism/sexism/etc and is itself irrational.
Yes.
If a "Christian" cult moved next door to me, I would be just as careful, and worried, because of past history.
Being cautious is not being racist. Acting on those feelings is being racist.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 148 of 404 (569009)
07-19-2010 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by jar
07-19-2010 7:01 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
"jar" writes:
Beliefs are NOT against the Law, at least in the US unless you can point out where that happens to be true.
You did not read.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 149 of 404 (569011)
07-19-2010 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 7:21 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
Did you say "...yes I have a problem with it, and hold those beliefs against them because they are against the law. "?
What beliefs are against the law?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Theodoric
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Message 150 of 404 (569012)
07-19-2010 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by riVeRraT
07-19-2010 7:21 PM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
How about you just explain it since those of this who read it, don't "get" what you mean. If people claim not to understand you it is incumbent on you to make it understandable.

Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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