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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
in other words if a person attaches a group name to any group of humans he is a racist. That doesn't make any sense. Noticing different and distinct characteristics doesn't make you a racist, it just means that you aren't blind. So saying someone is black, because they are black, isn't racist. You're a racist if you despise specific people based on their race and what their perceived negative attributes are. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
You are aware though that such things as white and black people do exist, and that they have different physical features distinguishig them from one another, yes?
Of course, only skin deep, as the saying goes.
That is what you said. You may not have meant it the way it was stated, but that's why I'm clarifying that now. Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
But really, why would Obama call himself black when he has a white mother? Wasn't his mother the one who really took care of him? It's almost like denying it in a way. If you read what he wrote before his presidential speeches became antiseptic and politically correct, it reveals his deepest beliefs. He seems to identify with adversity and martyrdom. Even though his father abandoned him, his leftist beliefs make it so that his blackness comes shining through. Whatever the case is, his politics are shit. I'm more concerned with the ideologies he's fostered than his whiteness or blackness or mulato-ness.
I am of mixed heritage, so when people ask what I am, I say ...American. Yeah, it's popular in America to be an hyphen-American. Perhaps it is more divisive to categorize ourselves. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
The fact is there is no accepted number of races. Science, curiously, does not define race. There is no accepted scientific definition of race, so I will heartily second your claim.
Abe} What "race"are my daughters? Their mother is a mix of Korean & JapaneseI Am a mixture of Alpine White & Native American It's intersting. Before the advent of modern travel, people evolved very distinct features due to isolation. More and more races are becoming assimilated so that there is no "pure race." And really, the concept of a pure race leads to the same dampening of a gene pool like purebreed dogs. Mutts are generally much more healthy and less prone to poor genes. I wonder if we could conclude the same with humans. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
It would be hard to explain the difference in modern, American vernacular to a foreigner, but suffice it to say there is a sociological difference. One is considered derrogatory, the other has many meanings, some that are good. It's weird, and very difficult to explain. There are subtle rules of etiquette when using the slang word nigga . Timing, audience, and delivery are critical in understanding the (in)appropriateness .
Because if you're not black then you aren't in the inner circle. There is a sense of entitlement to it. And some non-black people do get to say it, but again, it has to do with timing, delivery, and audience.
I don't know the etiquette in Holland, so it's hard to say. I mean, it's like anything else. You could have one black guy who could care less that you said nigga in an amusing way, or nigger for that matter. Context is going to matter alot. If you walked up some random black guy and said, "What up, my nigga?!?!," you might get punched in the face or at least looked at strange. If you said it to your black friend, he might not care because he knows you and knows you don't mean it in a derrogatory way. And then some get pissed off because they have a bullshit sense of self-entitlement, no matter if you meant it playfully or not.
LOL! You had me at "hook-nose," you raging anti-semite! Watch, Rrhain is going to burst in here crying in about two seconds because he can't differentiate between a joke and seriousness. quote: I'd Sarah her Silverman Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Which is kinda funny because there's not really any black people in Libya... its all arabs. Yeah, Libyans are generally ethnically Berbers, which, while African, are not black African. And while I'll also occasionally kick it old skool with KRS-One, I think his allusions about Uncle Tom's is kind of silly. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Unless he was just coincedentally searching for something to rhyme with attack, but even i think he has more skills than for that to be true. His issue to me sounds like he has a problem with black men, who work for something he doesn't believe in. Sounds like a bigot and a hater to me. Is it not he himself (KRS One) turning upon black men in his home nation, while condeming the same action in the lyrics. black guys and thier double standards, oh well. I find that often the most outspoken critics of racism tend to have racist tendencies themselves. I don't like hearing black people calling other black people Uncle Tom's, as if black people are supposed to act a certain way on account of their blackness. Race doesn't determine personality, culture and nature does. "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
1. Born here, never visited the Island. Consider myself hispanic, also in Miami refered to as Cuban-American cause I'm first generation born here. 2. Yes, perfectly well. Write it and read it too. 3. Baptism and Communion only. Oh, well in that case, "Como mierda, hijo de puta!"
quote: Racist a bit? Yeah, really... First of all, that's kind of messed up to say. Secondly, it isn't even remotely accurate. Cuba is almost entirely Afro-Cuban at this point. Most of Castillian origin have fled, leaving a high percentage of Afro-Cubans on the island... Not that it matters. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Being of Mexican (mestizo), hispanic descent A mestizo is a mix between a European Spaniard and a native American (Mayan, Incan, etc). It's use is widely accepted today, but was used pejoratively in the past -- similar to our current discussion about nigger versus nigga. Are you a mestizo or are you of Castillian Spanish decent -- big difference? I am from Castillian origin. I'm actually only a quarter, which makes me look like a white boy. All I have that is unquestionably Spanish in origin is my surname. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Well, there is a difference, no? You're not saying that avoiding sex with someone is the same as avoiding contact with them, are you? Surely, we can see that avoiding contact with all white men would be much different that avoinding sex with black ones, can't we? Are you not sleeping with black women because you are statistically 7 times more likely to be infected by HIV or are you using it as a justification for exclusion of an entire race? During sex with people you just meet, HIV should always be on the back of someone's mind, regardless of a race, seems to me. Would you be less likely to hitch-hike with a white, middle-aged man more quickly than you would a black middle-aged man on the sole statistical inference that with the white guy you have a greater chance of being in the midst of a serial killer? If not, aren't you being selective? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Why is the NBA dominated by blacks? Aren't they just better at basketball? Or is that idiocy? Or the jews with money... or the mexicans with labor, or the asians with math... But it's only a stereotype, whether or not anecdote makes it seems like things are a certain way. Difference between fact and stereotype: Objective Fact: More black people play in the NBA than white people. (It's a fact because it's based on measurable data) Subjective Stereotype: Because more black people in the NBA it means that black people are therefore better basketball players. (No, not necessarily. That's a stereotype). I get the whole "there's a reason why the stereotype exists, so don't perpetuate it" thing, but it's still a stereotype, which is completely subjective.
How many black people, on average, like fried chicken and/or watermelon? What are the odds? That's stupid. How many people of all races like fried chicken and/or watermelon? And how exactly would you quantify that?
Is it because we have a fear of being percieved as racist? is it that reasonable conclusions must be qualmed in the attempt at political correctness? Well, that's definitely true. Racism has many shades and it's become so taboo that any hint of it, many people have an irrational fear of it. I think some of the proposed ways of curbing racism is itself inherently racist *cough*affirmative action*cough.
My black fiends LOVE fired chicken. So what though? How many people living in the United States (where fried chicken and watermelon is prevalent) don't? It's as useless as saying that black people love cars because most of them you see are driving around in them. It really begs the question: 1. Doesn't everyone in some capacity appreciate cars? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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