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bluescat48
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Message 2 of 404 (566284)
06-24-2010 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
06-24-2010 12:19 AM


Racist?
My take on racism.
A person is a racist if any of the following apply:
Judging a person by:
skin color, eye color, size, shape etc.
religious belief
sexual preference
where his or her ancestors came from
the persons sex.
in other words if a person attaches a group name to any group of humans he is a racist.
To be a non-racist he would have to agree that all humans are the same, which they are Homo sapiens
Edited by bluescat48, : typo

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 14 of 404 (566345)
06-24-2010 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Evlreala
06-24-2010 1:43 AM


Re: Racist?
We are not all the same, to claim so is an ignorant proposal
So in what way are humans different other than appearance and views?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 15 of 404 (566348)
06-24-2010 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by nwr
06-24-2010 9:16 AM


Re: Racist?
My point is that I would consider just about anyone as a racist to some extent including myself. I have an intense dislike for :
Fundamentalist Christians
Fundamentalist Muslims
Radical Atheists
White supremacists
Black supremacists
Radical Feminists
Radical Fascists
Radical Communists
People who are against the separation of Church and State
Used Car Salespeople
Radical YECS
Radical Evolutionists
Senators & Congressmen who vote Party lines rather that what the majority of their constituents want
People who cow tow to Big Oil, Big Pharma etc.
People on welfare who don't try to find a way to get off it

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 17 of 404 (566447)
06-24-2010 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-24-2010 11:10 AM


Re: Racist?
Surely women have certain characteristics that are generally very different to characteristics of men.
Sexually yes, but in other regards there is no difference.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 18 of 404 (566449)
06-24-2010 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Hyroglyphx
06-24-2010 8:56 AM


Re: Racist?
So saying someone is black, because they are black, isn't racist.
Tell me the last time you saw a black man? I never have. Very dark brown yes but black, no. The same for white. I have never seen a white man. Some shade of pinkish tan (flesh) yes but white, no. That is why I say Homo sapiens the differences are simply minor. I am not saying simply calling a man black, white or anything else is racist.but most who bring attention to act as if the words are blackman, or whiteman with emphasis on the adjective, rather than the noun, black man or white man.
Edited by bluescat48, : as typical typos (im the woilds woist typiiisty

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 21 of 404 (566502)
06-25-2010 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Evlreala
06-25-2010 12:32 AM


Re: Racist?
Despite your insistance that we ignore them, unique morphiological traits do exist in reality.
But in no way do any of the above traits mean that they are any different. The same way that a Great Dane and a Poodle are different but still the same Canis domestica

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 28 of 404 (566538)
06-25-2010 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by riVeRraT
06-25-2010 7:14 AM


Re: Racist?
Fundamentalist Christians
Fundamentalist Muslims
Radical Atheists
White supremacists
Black supremacists
Radical Feminists
Radical Fascists
Radical Communists
People who are against the separation of Church and State
Used Car Salespeople
Radical YECS
Radical Evolutionists
Senators & Congressmen who vote Party lines rather that what the majority of their constituents want
People who cow tow to Big Oil, Big Pharma etc.
People on welfare who don't try to find a way to get off it
That does not make you a racist, that makes you prejudice. There are many who think like you in this forum.
I have a problem with that. You guys are lumping people together by their beliefs. I may not agree with most of a raging liberals views, but that does not automatically mean all raging liberals deserve to be hated by me.
Not by beliefs, but by action. Every group I have listed treats those of other persuasions as either second class citizens, abominations, or are out only for themselves and not for all mankind. I have yet to meet any of the above groups who isn't.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 29 of 404 (566539)
06-25-2010 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Hyroglyphx
06-25-2010 8:13 AM


Re: Racist?
You are aware though that such things as white and black people do exist, and that they have different physical features distinguishig them from one another, yes?
Ye4s different "physical"features and those within a particular group have different physical features also ie:
Hair color, eye color, size, shape, hair distribution, mouth shape, head shape, etc. My point is no matter what the differences are they are minor.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 31 of 404 (566543)
06-25-2010 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Peepul
06-25-2010 6:16 AM


Re: Racist?
Racism not about attaching names (unless they are derogatory names). It is about believing that some humans are less valuable than others because of race or nationality.
Yes to an extent. But the point is what is a race?
There are no exact points as to what a race is.
Is white a race? So called whites are sometimes sub classified as Nordic, Alpine & Mediterranean which, although not derogatory, stills puts a label on a particular group. It is not the label, but what the impression the label imparts.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 43 of 404 (566703)
06-26-2010 1:46 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Coyote
06-25-2010 10:12 PM


Re: Defining racism
My guess is that calling someone "a racist" is such a good political weapon that it's being overused.
Sure it is being overused. The fact is there is no accepted number of races. What constitutes a race? That is why I have been pointing out the fact that there is either one race or 6.6 billion. That is why I have said that the differences are minor.
Abe} What "race"are my daughters?
Their mother is a mix of Korean & Japanese
I Am a mixture of Alpine White & Native American
Or try this guy whose mother was half White, Half Native American
and his father half Black, one-quarter Hispanic White & one-quarter Native American. What is his race?
Edited by bluescat48, : added lines

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 45 of 404 (566728)
06-26-2010 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by AZPaul3
06-26-2010 3:04 AM


Re: Defining racism
Like me with different linages, he sounds like the prototypical, red-blooded, mom and apple pie American mongrel.
I would be interested in knowing what percent of the US population are mongrels? Maybe we could apply for minority status and get the same treatment as the other pseudominorities.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 50 of 404 (566762)
06-26-2010 10:06 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by AZPaul3
06-26-2010 11:14 AM


Re: Defining racism
The upshot being that the entire population of the US, 100%, is an amalgamation of mongrelated lineages and as such we are all entitled to protected minority status.
Bingo. I fully agree That is another point, in my point that the term race, is not in any true sense, definable.
Edited by bluescat48, : quote wouldn't work does now

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 51 of 404 (566763)
06-26-2010 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Coyote
06-26-2010 11:20 AM


Re: Defining racism
Most racial classifications rely on visible traits, but there are the invisible traits as well. Blood types, fingerprint patterns, and a ton of other traits can also be used to classify people.
Yes, let's use blood types as races. If that were the case my 3 siblings & I would be of different races:
Bill (Me) B-
Michael (Brother) A-
Sandy (Sister) O-
Katey (sister) AB-
Silly but again one cannot use just one point, but it shows the idiocy of what some people call races.
Edited by bluescat48, : what esle my typppinng
Edited by bluescat48, : quote wouldn't work does now

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 54 of 404 (566770)
06-27-2010 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by AZPaul3
06-27-2010 1:02 AM


Re: Defining racism
Yes Mother was BO-, but Father was AO+
Edited by bluescat48, : missing word

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 64 of 404 (566874)
06-28-2010 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by riVeRraT
06-28-2010 8:35 AM


Re: Racist?
It would be better to hate the actions, not the persons. we all have a belief that another person may not agree with.
I agree, but much of the problem is that the most vocal members of any group tends to agree with what the perceived ideology, preferences & persuasions that the the group is alleged to have.
Obviously one does not hear a quiet Fundie, Fascist, Communist, White, Black, Agnostic, Atheist, Evolutionist, Car Salesman, etc. Just the vocal who tend to be radical in their views.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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