Racist?

right, I am not saying blacks cause the crime, or "the danger", I am simply making an observational model meant to predict where "the danger" is located spatially in North America, in an effort for my self to avoid dangerous places, full of crime.I am just trying to be safe.hey Jar, thanks for disscussing it with me without the condescending attitude that everyone else has, and jumping at name calling right off the bat.I understand why people draw the conclusion of racism, I really do not want to talk with them as much as I would appriciate speaking to an open minded and objective person on this thought I have. what trait? bigoted, racist, ignorant?So. The numbers do not lie. while a high percentage of blacks (B%) may not be the reason for crime and danger to exist in these places, and I am sure there are other factors involved, B% could still be a barometer as to where common problems of danger exist in other areas of similar culture (USA, Mexico, Canada, The Caribbean).On the other hand I could be completely incorrect, it could be a false observation, and there could be places that do not fit and break this model.the main problem is that those who disagree with me, can only call me names and tell me how wrong I am, but can bring no evidence of places that have a high B% that are nice and safe, and somewhere anyone may want to go.I am current looking myself for a place in North America that does not fit my thought, but I have not found one yet, and as of yet I have failed to disprove it.

No. A person you perceive as a liberal called the cops on you. Your statement that liberals call the cops for what you perceive as something stupid is in itself a bigotted statement. I am reacting to the evidence you have presented. We all have prejudices, to claim otherwise is lying. Maybe lying to yourself but it is lying. I am willing to admit I have prejudices and can be a bigot at times. But the funny thing is, by you pushing that off on me does not make you any more or less. Pointing out what I am or my flaws does not remove it from you. Myabe you should critically think about the things you are saying to see how people could reach the conclusion you are a bigot. Unless of course self examonation is not something you feel is necessary, being prejudice free and all that as you are.

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Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

Yes, all three.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Your statistical examples are irrelevant in regards to what I said. By all means avoid any area that you feel threatened in, I avoid those areas too. We would be stupid not to.My point was that, while I avoid those areas, I don't care that they exist. I don't care that there are areas with a majority of black residents, however you seem to care.That's why I said, if you didn't want these areas to exist, as in: no black populated communities, just because they're black, that makes you racist.Now, if you said, we should try to not have poor areas and help bring up neighborhoods suffering from it, then that would be cool. You're not signalling out any one specific race. I would feel just as threatened in a white trash trailer park, or in a mexican barrio. Poverty breeds criminals, race has nothing to do with it. You called us bigots for pointing out that you were sounding a bit racist in your comments.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

Indeed, it says they were most probably racist themselves.Do you conclude from this then that all Tea Party denizens are racists?

I would guess that there is lots of racism in NY. There certainly was when I was living in that region (in CT). For sure, there is still a lot of racism in Chicago. The amount of racism has been diminishing over time, but there is still a lot of it around.

Actually. no.. That isn't it at all.It is if you don't understand inner city. My step daughter was brought up in inner city.. she understands inner city. She gets along perfectly find in that environment, and she gets along perfectly with the blacks. The black girls absolutely adore her, because she can communicate with them on their level , with their words, with their attitudes.She also is blond hair , blue eyed and very very white looking. It's not a matter of skin color, It is a matter of attitude.

Hey Oni,Maybe it is more accurate to say that corporate media's objective is to sell? (Certainly not to inform)There was a good article on Znet recently about this stuff. Did you catch it? I would link it, but Znet is down at the moment.I BELEIVE Faux News viewers know they are not being truthfully informed, they just don't care as long as it feeds their bias confirmation (apathy and ignorance). Bottom line, the viewers like what Faux News is selling.I would like to repeat Crashfrogs link:Fox Viewers Least Informed According to Pew
Fox Viewers Least Informed According to Pew | Mirror On America

Well, this is hardly a secret. The map below shows the intention homicide rate per 100,000 (darker blue is higher; gray means figures are not available). You're twice as likely to get murdered in Russia (B% ≈ 0.05%) than Barbados (B% ≈ 90%).Of course, your idea of "somewhere anyone may want to go" may differ from mine, but I'd rather be in Barbados.

Can you provide the source please. Looks like a great resource for dealing with racists.

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Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

Something that might be worth considering:There is a vast difference between race and culture. Many characteristics attributed to race are actually cultural.This is why the statistics of blacks vs. homicides worldwide do not correlate.If you used cultural traits vs. homicides you might have better success in finding correlations.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Neither, I am just repeating back your previous comments. I take it you are an advocate of the term "War of Northern Aggression" as a subsitute for the Civil War. As a Southerner myself for over 37 years, the only time I have seen arguments like yours are from blatant racists and bigots. I am not sure what your thoughts on the above are, I am just going off of the comments that you have already posted on this board, which seem to indicate you believe that whites are superior than other races for whatever reason. I am just commenting on your racially toned remarks, that is all. If you want to continue to deflect go ahead and do so, but it won't erase your past remarks. Reading your past coments, you yourself imply that you would not want to live in areas with a lot of black people and imply that black people have a natural tendancy for violance and criminality. I am just throwing this back into your face. If you want to call it "liberal character assassination" fine. Many of us rational people call it an honest assessment of your previous comments on this board. Ok, whatever floats your boat. I am just giving my assessment on your stereotyping and racially insensitive remarks. It depends on what you consider "white people". That is like saying Japanese are "white people". Most people and governmental institutions associate Caucasians as "white people". People of Jewish descent are of semetic decent not caucasian. Of course I hate all the grouping by race thing in the first place. But I am just stating what is common practice. Huh? What are you talking about? What anti-white people are you talking about? Was this more of your racial Freudian slips? I could really care less what you think about me, as you know nothing about me. I am just commenting on your remarks on this board, nothing more. If I am wrong, I am wrong. However, I think many others here would agree with me.

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"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

Wud up, Drone Yeah, definitely to sell. Which is more or less what I meant by divide, as in, divide into consumers and advertise to their specific interests. If I had to guess why, I'd say that entertainment attracts people. Straight forward news sans the sensationalism is, sadly, quite boring. O'reilly or the cry baby Beck are, at the very least, very good at entertaining like- minded people.- Oni

It doesn't really matter who you're racist "towards" and I don't think you have to be "raised racist" to be racist. It's a natural human tendency to categorize others by obvious characteristics.What I'm saying is that you'd be better off being aware of your natural tendencies and trying to civilize them instead of just denying them.

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I rode off into the sunset, went all the way around the world and now I\'m back where I started.

Your map is quite visually arresting, but just at a glance, I have two problems with its accuracy.Sudan (Darfur and the 30+ year war between Christian Africans and the Muslim government).Myanmar (a rather brutal dictatorship, which despite its brutality is unable to completely suppress various 'warlords' and rebels).Is the murder rate here a self-reported figure taken at face value from official government sources?Perhaps we should instead have a map of premature death due to violent acts including those of any government upon its citizens. I think the figures from Sudan, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, China, and even Saudi Arabia may look more bleak than they appear here.However, despite these concerns, the map still certainly helps your argument. The Barbados is a democracy and has no internal war going on.And it is a part of North America.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen