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ringo
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Message 309 of 404 (571021)
07-29-2010 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by New Cat's Eye
07-29-2010 5:15 PM


Re: Still don't get it?
Catholic Scientist writes:
I've been reading your posts and you still got it!
And I'm a blond.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
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From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 323 of 404 (572181)
08-04-2010 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by Theodoric
08-04-2010 9:18 AM


Re: reasonable racism
Theodoric writes:
Asians and math is another racial stereotype. The 1965 immigration act made preferences for professionals. The influx of asians since then have been educated people that want educated children.
It should be pointed out that an earlier generation of Asian immigrants was also relegated to menial labour, mostly on the railroads. Who's to say that a century from now the Hispanic people won't be stereotyped as "good at math"?
And who's to say that black people won't be stereotyped as loving salad? These "characteristics" are all social and historical, not inherently "racial".

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 334 of 404 (572654)
08-06-2010 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 331 by riVeRraT
08-06-2010 8:09 AM


riVeRraT writes:
ringo writes:
Would you hire a plumber who can't see a problem or one who goes and looks to see if there is a problem?
I am a plumber.
There is two sides to that coin. Plenty of mechanics out there who find problems when there is none, and charge you for it. Those are the dishonest ones, like some people here.
I want the honest plumber, who knows what he is doing, and only finds problems when one actually exists. Then fixes it for the right price.
There may be two sides to the coin but you only answered the one I didn't ask. Here it is again: Would you rather hire a plumber who looks for a problem or one who doesn't?
riVeRraT writes:
As I read through this thread, I am examining myself, and I find nothing wrong, I'm doing the best I can with what I've got.
Newsflash! There's nothing wrong with riVeRraT. He's perfect in every way.
I've already said in this thread that I'm a bigot. I try to be less bigoted. I couldn't do that if I thought I was perfect.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 338 of 404 (572673)
08-07-2010 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 336 by riVeRraT
08-06-2010 11:22 PM


riVeRraT writes:
I did answer it, and I answered it perfectly.
There you go again, Mr. Perfect.
If your answer was so good, you could have just repeated it. That would make me look like a fool instead of you.
You know, I've had misunderstandings with people too, sometimes right on this forum. You know how I handle them? If somebody tells me, "You said X, Y and Z and that offends me," I don't tell them that they're wrong and that they have no right to be offended. I don't tell them I'm not a bigot. I try to figure out why I might seem to be a bigot. I tell them that I didn't mean to offend anybody and I try to figure out exactly what wording it was that caused offense. Then I rephrase what I said in another way to try to get my meaning across without causing misunderstanding or offense.
That procedure should fall under "all I really need to know I learned in kindergarten". It's pretty embarassing that a grown man doesn't understand it.
Edited by ringo, : Removed redundant extra word.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 343 of 404 (573100)
08-09-2010 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 341 by riVeRraT
08-09-2010 5:58 PM


riVeRraT writes:
ringo writes:
Then I rephrase what I said in another way to try to get my meaning across without causing misunderstanding or offense.
been there done that too
Bullshit. Your standard response is, "I already answered that." Nobody should ever have to ask you where your answer is.
riVeRraT writes:
so what is left after I explore all the options that I can find, trying to find fault within myself?
Rinse and repeat. The process is never finished. Your mistake is in thinking that ANYTHING you do is ever perfect.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 345 of 404 (573214)
08-10-2010 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 344 by riVeRraT
08-10-2010 9:13 AM


riVeRraT writes:
ringo writes:
Your standard response is, "I already answered that." Nobody should ever have to ask you where your answer is.
As of late, with certain people only. DBlevins and I in the UFO thread just had a conversation where I reexplained myself for him, and he got it.
What part of "nobody" did you misunderstand?
riVeRraT writes:
I would if certain people were sincere, and actually just weren't getting it, but that is not the case sometimes.
It isn't your business to decide whether somebody else is sincere. You were blaming everybody but yourself at the beginning of the thread and you don't seem to have learned much.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 349 of 404 (573816)
08-12-2010 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 347 by riVeRraT
08-12-2010 7:53 AM


riVeRraT writes:
Yes, it is my business to determine who is being sincere when they are calling me a racist. I did not blame everybody, maybe you should go back and read the first couple lines of post #1.
I've read them and it's pretty clear what you're saying. People who think you're a racist are wrong and you're right. I repeat, you've learned nothing and it seems pretty clear that you're determined to learn nothing. You'll never know why people think you're a racist.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 352 of 404 (574705)
08-17-2010 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 351 by riVeRraT
08-17-2010 8:19 AM


riVeRraT writes:
ringo writes:
You'll never know why people think you're a racist.
Then I will never know why most people don't think I am a racist.
That's true. If you're determined to learn nothing, you'll probably succeed.
You're doing it the hard way, though. You really don't have to start new topics to learn nothing.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 355 of 404 (575302)
08-19-2010 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 353 by riVeRraT
08-19-2010 7:36 AM


riVeRraT writes:
Even you, have not given me one single reason why I would be considered a racist, or given me a single quote from any of my posts why I would be considered a racist.
I don't think I've called you a racist. Feel free to take your own advice and point out where I have.
I've called myself a bigot because I'm willing to admit that and try to improve myself.
All I've tried to do in this thread is help you understand why some people might think you're a racist. You're welcome.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 358 of 404 (575607)
08-20-2010 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 356 by riVeRraT
08-20-2010 7:12 AM


riVeRraT writes:
Of course the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, but that is not the problem here.
Quoted for irony.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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