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Buzsaw
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Message 76 of 181 (649981)
01-26-2012 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Straggler
01-26-2012 3:42 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Straggler writes:
The new Oni is a dickwad.
I don't like him.
Straggler, that goes to show how irrational you really are. If you can't look around the planet's nations and cultures and see that the US is the most industrious, prosperous, free, productive, benevolent, and powerful nation of them all, you've got your head up your down in the sand.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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jar
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Message 77 of 181 (649982)
01-26-2012 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
01-26-2012 7:34 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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frako
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Message 78 of 181 (650019)
01-27-2012 5:08 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
01-26-2012 7:34 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
US is the most industrious, prosperous,
Human Development Index (HDI)
1 steady Norway 0.943 increase 0.002
2 steady Australia 0.929 increase 0.002
3 steady Netherlands 0.910 increase 0.001
4 steady United States 0.910 increase 0.002
5 steady New Zealand 0.908 steady
free,
Ranking: 1
Andorra
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Barbados
Belgium
Canada
Cape Verde
Chile
Costa Rica
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominica
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kiribati
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Nauru
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Palau
Poland
Portugal
St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
San Marino
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Tuvalu
United Kingdom
United States
Uruguay
productive
1) The Kingdom Of Norway
2) The Republic Of Singapore
3) The United States Of America
4) The Swiss Confederation
benevolent
Um ??? by what standards?
powerful nation of them all
By military power sure but most other countries dont let 50 million of their citizens go without healthcare just so their military budget is higher then the REST OF THE WORLD combined.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

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Straggler
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Message 79 of 181 (650020)
01-27-2012 5:13 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
01-26-2012 7:34 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Good grief Buz - Can you not even see when you are being parodied?
Dark Oni writes:
I got one criteria: who wins in a fight.
Is that your criteria too Buz? As for the rest of your post:
Buz regularly writes:
"brainwashed sheeples"
(**Straggler nods sadly and sagely**)
Yep. That is the point.

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Straggler
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Message 80 of 181 (650022)
01-27-2012 5:21 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by onifre
01-26-2012 4:00 PM


Re: Domestic fairness versus global fairness
Dark Oni writes:
You would love him in the gym.
You're not my type.
Dark Oni writes:
Great workout partner.
And come between you and Rrhain?
Oni writes:
Listen buck-o, you don't want to tangle with the likes of me, not these days especially. My squat presses alone would make you quiver in fear.
I'll see your squat press and raise you a kickboxing bout.
Dark Oni writes:
New York is a great city, but you know what's a great city too? Alabama and Georgia.
Dark Oni writes:
Oni
Come back.......

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Straggler
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Message 81 of 181 (650025)
01-27-2012 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
01-26-2012 7:34 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Straggler writes:
The new Oni is a dickwad. I don't like him.
Buz writes:
Straggler, that goes to show how irrational you really are.
Buz you cheered these comments.......
Dark Oni writes:
Happy, old people, watching football in great seats. You're telling me other countries have that? I didn't think so.
Dark Oni writes:
But that's how you rank a country, by it's military power and overall control. So it should make you proud actually.
Dark Oni writes:
You don't have the amount of fast food places we have, thus you have healthier, skinnier people living in your country who tend to get sick less. Your healthcare system can include EVERYONE and look better on paper. Ours can't. Can you imagine what kind of medical requirements are needed to take care of these over weight slobs?
Dark Oni writes:
Sometimes you have to kick a little butt to change the way people behave, but not all the time. I mean, how else do you propose we make middle easterners think like us? Ask them nicely?
Dark Oni writes:
She's a model, can dance, has her own clothing line and fragrance, sings too... What else does one need to do to be an artist? She's been rewarded with a tv show for a reason. Networks don't make mistakes.
Dark Oni writes:
I look around, I just don't see who is unhappy. Polls or not, go to a bar, everyone is having a good time watching a game on tv. Go to any one of the malls in the US, they're FULL. People aren't shopping like that if they're not happy. Why would anyone want to commit suicide when they could hit an Applebees during happy hour and really enjoy themselves?
I know that dark Oni is a parody. The question is - Are you?

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onifre
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Message 82 of 181 (650038)
01-27-2012 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Perdition
01-26-2012 3:16 PM


Re: Domestic fairness versus global fairness
There's more than wiki available.
Yeah, but I'm talking factual stuff. Not nonsense from who knows what website.
Show me a liberal media (with the possible exception of MSNBC) and maybe I'd believe this.
The Daily Show and every god damn writer on that staff...bunch of elitist if you ask me. All the writers on Colbert's show, South Park, basically everything on TV is liberal.
But ask the family members of the innocent Iraqis we killed how they view us. Same for Afghanistan.
Their answer would be emotional rather than logical, so I wouldn't consider it.
But if you ask the one's we liberated they'll say we're not bullies.
It was easier and safer, in the later half of the past decade to say you were Canadian when abroad than American.
I highly doubt that. You tell any country you're American, they see dollar signs! You'll be treated with respect in most any place. Not the middle east of course, or at least not in all of the middle east, but it'll take 2 years to change that opinion if we vote the right way come November.
No, we usually have very good reasons for invading other countries...usually that they're going to stop selling us whatever it is we buy from them at a cheap price in an attempt to make their countries more prosperous.
You're making stuff up now. This is conspiracy nonsense.
We invade when they're a threat to the US and our way of life.
Why should they think like us?
Because it's the right way to think.
Maybe something artistic? She was awarded a TV show because she's attractive and rich. Much the same reason much of the "housewives" on the various "Real Housewives" shows and the Jersey Shore
She acts in front of the camera, stop being a hater, she's an artist.
I'm not happy when I'm shopping, why would anyone else be?
That's not true.
The winner of the Super Bowl is only the team that won their last 3 (or 4) games. Hardly everyone.
Um, your math is screwy. The Giants beat the shit out of the Packers, thus they beat the 15 teams the Packers beat during the regular season.
Secondly, the people who are really struggling wouldn't be at McDonald's would they? If they can't afford to buy food, standing in front of a Micky D's would be pretty torturous.
They shouldn't be there anyway so they're actually winning.
- Oni

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Buzsaw
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Message 83 of 181 (650040)
01-27-2012 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by jar
01-26-2012 7:39 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
jar writes:
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
Not all is well in Norway
quote:
Norway dropped from mostly free to moderately free in the 2012 Index, primarily because of expansive public spending. The government has focused on containing expensive welfare programs, but government spending as a percentage of GDP rose sharply.
Admittedly, that's where the present regime is taking/has taken the US of A.
You can cite exceptions relative to some aspects of my message. By and large, the US of A is and has been the most productive, free, prosperous and benevolent.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Jar quote

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Uncle Gruber
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Message 84 of 181 (650042)
01-27-2012 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
quote:
benevolent.
I'd say that you might be able to back up the others with reasonable evidence, benevolence though? Really?

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Straggler
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Posts: 10333
From: London England
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Message 85 of 181 (650043)
01-27-2012 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Buz your link is one about economic freedom rather than freedom period.
Do you think they are one and the same thing?

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caffeine
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Message 86 of 181 (650044)
01-27-2012 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
quote:Norway dropped from mostly free to moderately free in the 2012 Index, primarily because of expansive public spending. The government has focused on containing expensive welfare programs, but government spending as a percentage of GDP rose sharply.
Admittedly, that's where the present regime is taking/has taken the US of A.
You can cite exceptions relative to some aspects of my message. By and large, the US of A is and has been the most productive, free, prosperous and benevolent.
Did you notice that, even using the particular ranking chosen by the website you just linked to, this isn't true? The USA is ranked 10th, behind Mauritius, Canada, New Zealand and Chile, and only the barest fraction ahead of Denmark.
Edited by caffeine, : punctuation

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Straggler
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Posts: 10333
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Message 87 of 181 (650045)
01-27-2012 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Looking more closely at your link - Hong Kong (part of China) is listed as the freest place in the world.

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Theodoric
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Message 88 of 181 (650046)
01-27-2012 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by onifre
01-27-2012 8:14 AM


Re: Domestic fairness versus global fairness
The Daily Show and every god damn writer on that staff...bunch of elitist if you ask me. All the writers on Colbert's show, South Park, basically everything on TV is liberal.
Maybe the fact they are on a comedy channel will shed some light on this.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 89 of 181 (650048)
01-27-2012 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Gee, You never actually responded to Jar's comment.
jar writes:
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
Instead you posted a link from a right wing propaganda outfit that doesn't even address the question.
Of course no one is surprised.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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jar
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Message 90 of 181 (650049)
01-27-2012 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Just repeating unsupported assertions and trying to palm the pea instead of answering the question won't help your cause Buz.
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Cuba had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Japan had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in England had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Germany had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Canada had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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