Creationism/ID as Science

As opposed to confusing men with dirt???

It is the objection that the school board is using the logical fallacy of 'equivocation' to try to eliminate science from teh science class due to religious purposes.After all, they don't do the same thing for the theory of gravity, or the theory of relativity.

That is just projection on your part. Scientific people are using science as a tool to find models on how the things work, and to figure out what happened. The fact that it debunks the literalists viewpoint of the world is totally irrelavant. You are entirely wrong about evolution. Evolution is accepted because it fits the avaiable data, and can have predictive powers about what can be discovered, and has the ability to be tested and falsified. It has withstood 150 years of people trying to falsify it.Now, scientific people WILL object to people who use psuedo-science, misquotes, and lies to try to push religion into school. That is what the 'I.D.' groups are doing, such as the 'ICR' and the discovery institute. "I.D." is currently not science because 1) it does not have a way to test it, 2) it has not explainatory powers, 3) it makes no predictions. It relys on the logical fallacy of personal incredibility of 'we can't understand it, it must be an "intelligent designer".. and then further proclaims. 'we do not know the charactersitics of this intelligent designer', yet every one of them will admit (I think the Intelligent designer is god'.It's only arguemetns FOR I.D. appear to be either made up psueodscience (such as Dembski's 'Law of conservation of information')
or attacks on evolution.There are plenty of very devote CHristians that do not have any problems with evolution. However, they are not the literalists. They are also not the ones that are trying to take science OUT of schools, and insert religion in place of science IN schools.THe scientists are not attacking religion. They are defending religion against those who would replace science with their particular religion.

Tell me.If someone is trying to lead you to the 'truth'... and you find that the y continually lie, distort things, make asserstions you know are wrong, and refuse to listen to what you have to say, would you accept anything they say as 'truth'? Edited by AdminFaith, : No reason given.

And the source of this information is?Is that true with the fact that the Dover trial has shown, legally, that "Intelligent Design" is not science ?

Two things.Would you say that if an irreducible complex system can be demonstrated to be able to evolved naturally, it will falsify ID?andHow do you detect and measure information? If I give you some numbers, can you detect which numbers have information in it, and which ones are random?