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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Genesis 3:
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
The man is become as one of us, to know good and evil. Man was not chased out of the Garden of Eden because he gained the capability to know right from wrong, but because the God as portrayed in Genesis 2 & 3 was afraid. That God feared man would also eat from the Tree of Life and so live forever. That was why man was banished. But that is STILL off topic and irrelevant nonsense. It has nothing to do with the topic or with you justifying bigotry and discrimination. Even if you think homosexuality is a sin, that is insufficient reason to justify discrimination. Other peoples sins are none of your business. Try to address a topic instead of constantly trying to move the goal posts and inserting irrelevant material. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
More C.S Lewis.
Are you so intellectually banckrupt that your position, your 'own thinking' is yet another quote by somebody else!? And irrelevant to the topic, too.
Rob writes: In a sense He is a photon (the photon); the morning star! My bold. I thought the Morning Star was Satan. Bit blasphemous? Edited by Larni, : No reason given. Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: What's the difference? Examples, please.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5528 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Back on topic. I am gradually coming around to the idea that homosexuality is a natural thing for humans and other animals”don't know about plants, fungi, and protists, though. I do take notice however that male E. coli bacteria have sex only with their female counterparts. This is a great relief for me to know that gay microbes are not screwing around down there in my intestines.
Gay sex in humans certainly does have a long and enduring history. Will Durant points out, for example, that Alexander the Great was known to often dismiss the young boys sent into his tent for after-battle pleasure; instead he often preferred young girls. More recently, a Greek friend of mine told me his grandfather preferred young boys to women when he went out on his wife. My friend said there was nothing strange about it in Greek culture, and that his grandfather was otherwise quite straight. So you don't need to go back many generations to find culturally tolerated sexual aberrations. But you can't find ANY evidence in history that Greeks or anyone else actually MARRIED those boys who bent over for their pleasure. I also take notice that no shepherd is on record for wanting to to marry his sheep, either. From an historical perspective gay acts are plentiful, while gay marriage is nonexistent. This issue of gay marriage is entirely a new thing, designed artificially to kick open that closet door. ”Hoot Mon
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Does the term "social pressure" mean anything to you? quote: Sometimes, yes. It is also what society uses to inhibit people from acting like Hitler did, which is the point I was making and you are now avoiding with an irrelevant comment. Please pay attention to the thread of the topic. But, responfing to your comment... Are you saying that Hitler was speaking the truth and was silenced by society?
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Er, as I understand it, bacteria are not gendered. Nor do they have sex. Edited by nator, : No reason given.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5877 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
You might want to read some of Victor Frankl's work if you are interested in straight psychology.
He suffered through two different concentration camps in Germany and is far more in touch with reality in my opinion. Suffering does that to a man... and that is why Jeus preached the cross bound journey as the way to real enlightenment. Your expose on guilt is sick and twisted. I don't have a sense of guilt. My heart is free... God has taken the world on his shoulders and taken responsibility for it all. He took the blame. Not out of guilt, but love. How can you so misunderstand the cross?
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5877 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
thought the Morning Star was Satan. Bit blasphemous? The morning star is the morning star. Satan is only an imposter. What is there to not understand about this. It ain't rocket science.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
The topic of this thread is "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century"
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5877 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Even if you think homosexuality is a sin, that is insufficient reason to justify discrimination. Other peoples sins are none of your business. So you discriminate against 'discrimination'? Then it's none of your business? Do you discriminate against beastiality? Do you discriminate against child porn? What is the matter with you? Your accusations of nonsense, are themselves nonsense. Your position is one of pure adulterated interference and intentional muddying of the waters. You churn the sea with your sophistry and make hovoc of 'reason'. Job 41:24 His chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone. 25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing. 26 The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin. 27 Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood. 28 Arrows do not make him flee; slingstones are like chaff to him. 29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw; he laughs at the rattling of the lance. 30 His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge. 31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment. 32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; one would think the deep had white hair. 33 Nothing on earth is his equal-- a creature without fear. 34 He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud." A beast you have become in your rage! Come to your senses jar and be a man. God is not afraid of you, and neither am I. He has you completely surrounded and contained on a lonely little blue planet in the vaccume of space. You are a threat to no-one who listens to the voice of Him who sit's on the throne and will make you his footstool. Your bullets fall to the ground at my command, because the command is given in the name of Jesus. Edited by Rob, : No reason given.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5877 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
What's the difference? The difference... and the point is... that if you worship God as God, you will respect others as yourself. It is about Godliness through and though... So as the relation to the thread (which I see the queen is reminding us of)... If we respect others as Godly, we will naturally expect also that they behave in a Godly fashion. Homosexuality is not Godly. That does not mean that God hates homosexuals. It means that God hates homosexuality, and exhorts those who practice it to repent of it and ask for his help to be healed of the pain that causes us to seek love in all the wrong places. God wants to heal wounds, not condemn us for having received them from others. Nor does he want the others to be condemned for giving the wounds. he exhorts us all to forgive and show mercy and repent. Edited by Rob, : No reason given. Edited by Rob, : No reason given.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5528 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
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Er, as I understand it, bacteria are not gendered.I do take notice however that male E. coli bacteria have sex only with their female counterparts. This is a great relief for me to know that gay microbes are not screwing around down there in my intestines. Nor do they have sex. ”Hoot Mon
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
You are apparently completely unable to follow a topic.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5877 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Are you saying that Hitler was speaking the truth and was silenced by society? C'mon nator... Society was right to fight him, because right and wrong are real things which we expect others to know without being told or having to argue through meaningless minutia.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The topic is "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century".
Jar posted:
jar writes: Even if you think homosexuality is a sin, that is insufficient reason to justify discrimination. Other peoples sins are none of your business. to which Rob replied with more off topic nonsense. The issue is not bestiality, child porn or anything other than "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century". Are you are are you not going to present a case for discrimination against homosexuals? Once again, Other peoples sins are none of your business.
Your position is one of pure adulterated interference and intentional muddying of the waters. You churn the sea with your sophistry and make hovoc of 'reason'. How is asking you to actually address the topic "pure adulterated interference and intentional muddying of the waters"?
A beast you have become in your rage! Come to your senses jar and be a man. God is not afraid of you, and neither am I. He has you completely surrounded and contained on a lonely little blue planet in the vaccume of space. You are a threat to no-one who listens to the voice of Him who sit's on the throne and will make you his footstool. Your bullets fall to the ground at my command, because the command is given in the name of Jesus. More off topic nonsense Rob. Do you ever plan on trying to address the topic? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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