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Message 267 of 301 (397272)
04-25-2007 9:30 AM 		Reply to: Message 266 by mark24
04-25-2007 9:23 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
Who said anything about almighty? Omnipotent means the ability to do anything. If he can't tell a lie then he can't do anything, & is therefore not omnipotent.
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Source of definition please?
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 271 of 301 (397285)
04-25-2007 11:31 AM 		Reply to: Message 268 by mark24
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Re: Everything Is A Choice
Omnipotent: Having unlimited power, able to do anything.
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Thanks, the version I get from online Oxford is:
Oxford Languages | The Home of Language Data
omnipotent
/omnippt'nt/
” adjective having unlimited or very great power.
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Does that mean God has the capability of telling a lie. I would assume so.
Does that mean God can tell a Lie when it is not in His nature to do so. Not according to John.
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1Joh 2:27 (KJS) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie,, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. {in him: or, in it}
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My bold.
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God the Holy Spirit is the one who speaks to men and John said He is truth, and is no lie.
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I would be very careful about calling God the Holy Spirit a liar, He might exist and hear whoever did.
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Reference Mark 3:28, and 29.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 272 of 301 (397290)
04-25-2007 11:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 270 by ringo
04-25-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
some who believe they are "children of God" are not.
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You are so correct.
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That is why we must search as my signature says.
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"All nations" plainly means all the people from those nations
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You can say it all you want but you cannot make this a judgment of anything other that the nations as a whole.
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Any way you look at it, nobody is exempt from the judgement.
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Again you are correct. But everybody is not going to be judged at the same time.
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Reve 20:5 (KJS) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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The second death being the lake of fire those who have place in the first ressurection will not be condemned at a later time.
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This ressurection takes place at Jesus appearing in the sky.
The judgment of the nations takes place when Jesus comes to set up His 1,000 year reign on earth.
At the end of the 1,000 years there is the Great White Throne Judgment. This is the judgment of the unsaved.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 274 of 301 (397296)
04-25-2007 12:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 269 by iceage
04-25-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
It clearly says people. Which makes sense in the context.
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You believe what you are told in the NIV preversion of the Bible if you want> I believe what the greek says myself.
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you have created a modified version of Christianity.
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I have said over and over again I do not claim to be a christian.
Because I an not Christ Like yet.
I do claim to be a born again child of the King.
I believe Jesus died for my sins.
I believe John 3:18
John 3:18 (KJS) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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I have believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Because of that God declared I will not be condemned.
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Now spin that anyway you want to.
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Get over the false belief that you have to do a bunch of good works to go to heaven.
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The only thing you have to do is what is said in John 3:18. Period.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 284 of 301 (397617)
04-26-2007 9:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 281 by nator
04-26-2007 8:59 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
Seems to me that you are worshipping the Bible, not God.
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I haven't found a good science book yet that told me about God.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 286 of 301 (397620)
04-26-2007 10:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 279 by nator
04-25-2007 7:21 PM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
Er, no. The King James bible is known to be one of the least accurate, though also one of the most beautiful, versions of the bible. The NRSV is better.
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Sorry I don't believe that Jesus was a son of God.
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I believe He was The only begotten Son of God.
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I also believe God has many sons and daughters, who are born of the Spirit.
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Those are just a couple of things I have a problem with in the NRSV.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 287 of 301 (397622)
04-26-2007 10:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 285 by nator
04-26-2007 9:48 PM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
Every science book teaches you about God's Creation.
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Science book's teaches that I evolved from a single cell life form that no one knows where it came from, or how it came into existence. This teaches I have a body and mind.
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God's book says that God created man in his own image. That would be flesh, Spirit and Mind (intelligence)
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It teaches me that if man's Spirit is born again he will spend eternity with Him.
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That makes the two versions incompatable.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 288 of 301 (397624)
04-26-2007 10:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 285 by nator
04-26-2007 9:48 PM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
Why are you so afraid of knowledge, ICANT?
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What makes you think I am afraid of knowledge?
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Is that just because I will not accept everything that your God of Science teaches?
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Your God of Science cannot tell you where the universe came from, how or why.
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Your God of Science cannot tell you where life came from, how or why.
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Your God of Science cannot tell you when the beginning was. 14 billion or 20 billion YA or inbetween. Next year what will it be?
Or the year after or etc.
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Yet you want me to believe your God of Science is infallable.
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My God of Heaven says He created the heavens and the earth in the beginning. That He created man in His image. That he created every living thing on earth. That He created man to Love and obey Him by choice.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 295 of 301 (397689)
04-27-2007 9:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 291 by nator
04-27-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
But this is not a battle between science and religion, of course.
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Science says one day it will prove to be true. We will figure it out maybe.
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God says in His Word that one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
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If that day does not ever come then I will have been proven wrong.
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Message 299 of 301 (397836)
04-27-2007 10:13 PM 		Reply to: Message 297 by mark24
04-27-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Everything Is A Choice
So, is it true God can do anything but cannot lie?
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I say God will not lie, but He is capable of doing anything.
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Mark,
I am capable of blowing someone's brains out with my 44 magnum but I will not.
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Message 300 of 301 (397837)
04-27-2007 10:13 PM 		Reply to: Message 298 by nator
04-27-2007 10:36 AM

Re: Remember Francis Collins?
Here's what he has to say about your beliefs:
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nator,
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I could care less about what Francis Collins has to say about my beliefs. I could care less about what anybody has to say about what I believe.
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I have already been judged as to where I will spend eternity as Jesus said: "I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish"
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{quoteJohn 3:18 (KJS) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.[/quote] I already have a home in Heaven.
But I must be judged as to how I have used the talents that God gave me, and be rewarded accordingly.
I will not be judged by what someone thinks.
I will be judged out of the books of God.
The only thing that matters is what God thinks and says.
The only thing that matters is to hear Jesus say, "well done my good and faithful servant enter into the joys of thy Lord".
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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