Honour Amongst Christians

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Agreed. So why must one become a Christian? Why must one proclaim belief in God or Jesus? What's wrong with focusing on bettering your heart and motives without the extraneous identification of being "with Christ"? Why not just do those things with no assurance, or even a request of getting something back?

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Would you tell who your personal example is for doing good things to your neighbors? The Donald? The Rockefellers? That Buffett guy? And when you do those good things, how do you honor them by doing them in their honor? Do you ask yourself how they gained their riches?Is it pleasant to be with such people, and why is it unpleasant to be with Christ? Did you think about what you were going to say before you said it? I don't want to put a cramp into your dialogue, you don't need my help.He is right about Islam. Edited by ThreeDogs, : No reason given.

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I don't have a person who is my "personal example" for doing good things. Why would you think I had one? I do good things because I've decided it's better to try and help people than to hurt them.

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Then you came up with this all by yourself and never had an example for doing the same thing, because until you, there never was anyone who did what you do? I thought so!

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No. I don't really trouble myself with riches, it adds too much unrequired stress. I certainly couldn't care less about how someone else got their riches. Unless, of course, they were hurting others, then I'd do what I could to prevent that.

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I specifically asked you about specific people and if you know how they gained their wealth. I'm looking forward to the implementation of your methods to stop them. Heck, I'll even vote for you.

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I'd like to get help from wherever possible. But if this discussion causes you discomfort, I'm not going to request that you remain.

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Haphazard ramblings are painful. I couldn't even tell you what I'm looking for from you, because you are not saying anything.