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Author Topic:   If it can be, how can the "Absence of Evidence" be "Evidence of Absence?".
Meldinoor
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Message 286 of 309 (539417)
12-15-2009 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by ICANT
12-15-2009 3:47 PM


Straggler's Holy Book
Hi ICANT,
ICANT writes:
I on the other hand add the witness of several men that wrote down several things that had happened along with a lot of things that were going to happen. Since many of those things that they foretold came to pass in my lifetime, I tend to believe the other things they wrote.
Is this really sufficient evidence? If straggler wrote a book about his twelve and a half magic pixies, and threw in a few predictions that came to pass in my lifetime, do I then have sufficient cause to convert to Straggler's religion?
Just a thought.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 288 of 309 (539419)
12-15-2009 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by New Cat's Eye
12-15-2009 5:16 PM


Re: Straggler's Holy Book
Catholic Scientist writes:
If it convinced you, would you really have a choice?
I guess not. But it would be apparent to me that using Straggler's holy book as evidence for its own veracity, would be futile in a discussion with others who do not accept its truth a priori.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 290 of 309 (539422)
12-15-2009 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by New Cat's Eye
12-15-2009 5:23 PM


Re: Straggler's Holy Book
Catholic Scientist writes:
It was a reason for believing in god, not a reason that the book is true.
If I'm going to be convinced that the 12 fairies exist, then I also have to be convinced that their holy book has veracity, IF I intend to use it as supporting evidence.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 292 of 309 (539425)
12-15-2009 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by ICANT
12-15-2009 5:46 PM


Re: Straggler's Holy Book
ICANT writes:
It has made me a better husband, father, friend and neighbor
That's great! However, the sole question I was trying to raise was whether the existence of a book is "evidence" for anything except the existence of the writers of the book. I'm not questioning the basis of our faith, only the use the Bible as evidence in a discussion about the existence of God.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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Meldinoor
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Message 294 of 309 (539430)
12-15-2009 6:20 PM
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12-15-2009 6:15 PM


Re: Straggler's Holy Book
The Origin of Species is not evidence of evolution. It is evidence that Darwin existed, it is evidence that he forumulated the theory of evolution and it is evidence that he studied evolution. I presume (I haven't read it) that it contains arguments and references to evidence for evolution.
The evidence itself is external and is ubiquitous in nature.
Respectfully,
-Meldinoor

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