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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
There is no need to be a creationist to see of the flaws in evolutionary beliefs and reject them for what they are, a belief. Ultimately evolution is a religion masquerading as a science discipline
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
My understanding of science and religion is quite grounded, thank you.
I dont know about the some people you refer to. But there are many well known evolutionists and ex-evolutionists who's observations that evolution is a religion which masquerades as a science discipline parallels my own.
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
True enough, any of a dozen brands of self-delusional personality will suffice. Without seeing your post history I'm gong to make a guess thats about as strong as your rebuttals get, or not very.
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
Isn't it odd that the only folks who claim science is a religion are fundamentalist Christians? Why dont you try responding to what I actually said rather than tearing down your strawman. Oh thats right, maybe you cant. There is no need to be a creationist (or a fundamental Christian) to see of the flaws in evolutionary beliefs and reject them for what they are, a belief. Ultimately evolution is a religion that masquerades as a science discipline .
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
You make my point; the only folks who claim that science is a religion are fundamentalists. Yeh, keep making that claim. You have yet to back it up with anything, and given your pattern that aint never going to happen. Now I dont know about you and your claimed credentials because those are never backed up with any bonafides either. So in lew of that I will go to just a few quotes of well known & established evolutionists on the issue of evolutionism being an ideology, a world view, and yes a religion. Darwinian atheist Michael Ruse has even acknowledged that evolution is their religion!
Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religiona full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. . . . Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.
Sir Arthur Keith, a famous British evolutionary anthropologist and anatomist."Evolution is unproved and unprovable. We believe it only because the only alternative is special creation, and that is unthinkable." In fact, it seems that the Theory of Evolution is contrary to established science. George Wald, prominent Evolutionist (a Harvard University biochemist and Nobel Laureate) "When it comes to the Origin of Life there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation. There is no third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved one hundred years ago, but that leads us to only one other conclusion, that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds; therefore, we choose to believe the impossible: that life arose spontaneously by chance!"
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
Isn't it odd that the only folks who claim science is a religion are fundamentalist Christians Actually what I find odd is that so many evolutionists are on a zealous crusade against any notion of a creator (except the ones made in their own image) .And for this cause they hijack science for their own ideological ends. In fact, you will fit this description quite aptly.
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
No, your real objection is that I don't kowtow to your particular version of religion.
What are you psychic now? No just more strawmen, thats all you got there babe.
The Dark Ages are over. You can't even send the Inquisition after me any longer, and burning at the stake
Thats laughable and you are a scientist with a PHD? But dont stop there with your strawmen , lets see just how far you will go with your ever so weak and goofy analogies.
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
And I am supposed to take your word over what is published over several different sources with notes?
If you are going to sling around a lpt of wild accusations, how about backing them up with independent & verifiable sources. Err uh, places like talkorigins wont qualify. Dr, You and your halfwitted diatribes, are not adequate.
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
You dont read to well do you. What he said was that I could not send the Inquisition yada yada yada after him. And whre he dredged that up from I have no idea, except maybe in his own head.
Pretty sloppy there ol' chap, of both him and you. And I am supposed to take your word about what?? Like I said before, neither creationism nor christianity are required to see all of the flaws in evolutionary beliefs and reject them for what they are, a belief. Ultimately evolutionism is a religion that masquerades as a science discipline .
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
No I would not agree that your your one vote invalidates that statement I made about so many evolutionists. My point however is that
neither creationism nor christianity are required to see all of the flaws in evolutionary beliefs and reject them for what they are, a belief. Ultimately evolutionism is a religion that masquerades as a science discipline .
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
Well then your experience as for all of us, is limited.
Neither creationism nor christianity are required to see all of the flaws in evolutionary beliefs and reject them for what they are, a belief. And yes, ultimately evolutionism is a religion that masquerades as a science discipline .
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
Its pretty simple actually, You used the word lies and I asked you to back it up, you never did. Instead you spin and obfuscate. Typical, so predictable. If you and coyote are some of the heavyweights around here, well you bore me, and it's a fairly lame site then. Apparently though you need your echo chamber, and you have it here.
In fact I think I'll propose a new topic for a name to this forum that more accurately reflects it tenor. I'll suggest it be changed to "Evolutionist echo chamber" with a sub title of "No Dissent allowed"
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IchiBan Member (Idle past 4967 days) Posts: 88 Joined: |
Thanks for your insight and input on this. However I already put my opinion in the proposed new topics area so I will have to take whatever flaming or mod action that comes out of that.
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