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Theodoric
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Message 98 of 722 (682146)
11-30-2012 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by jaywill
11-30-2012 8:09 AM


Re: Why Didn't Jesus Condemn OT God?
Perhaps some poster here feels he or she is more qualified than Jesus Christ to ascertain such moral issues?
Yes I do think I am more qualified. As I am more qualified than Dionysus, Isis or Mithra.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 100 of 722 (682149)
11-30-2012 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by jaywill
11-30-2012 8:34 AM


Re: Why Didn't Jesus Condemn OT God?
I think that that fancy footwork has been debunked already.
Nope. Not debunked at all. None of them have any contemporary evidence for their existence.
You are going to have to buy into a lot of foolish lies in order to use guilt by association to lump Christ and Isis or Christ and Mithra together
You are going to have to buy into a lot of foolish lies in order to accept the Jesus of the bible unquestioningly.
The Jesus of the bible offers no new or better moral code than anything before or after.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 146 of 722 (682822)
12-05-2012 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by jaywill
12-05-2012 3:09 PM


Folks, there is no final accounting with the Atheistic evolutionary system.
Why do you feel there is such a need? You say this like it is some great revelation.
Things live, things die. No more, no less.
At least with the God of the Bible there is a concluding and final judgment according to an infallible record of one's deeds. With the evolutionary system all the evil doers will only melt peacefully into the dust of the ground.
And there is the difference between fantasy and reality. What is the problem with just becoming dust of the ground?
Just like Adolf Eichman said - the Nazis would jump laughing into their graves having done what they did.
And here we go. When you got nothing bring up the Nazi's. Poor form Jaywill, poor form.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 147 of 722 (682823)
12-05-2012 3:26 PM
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12-05-2012 2:53 PM


Re: Enough blame and salvation to go around
You like to say "your diety". But I think one Creator created both of us. I don't think you have your own personal Creator and I mine. I believe ONE God is God whether we like to own God or not. .
But what you believe has no bearing on reality does it. Rahvin does not have a deity, you believe you do. You are insulting him by belittling his lack of a belief in a sky fairy, but then again as a christian that seems to be your right doesn't it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 155 of 722 (682836)
12-05-2012 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by jaywill
12-05-2012 3:57 PM


Now I would point to the resurrection of Christ as historical and ample proof - that as He predicted He would be raised from the dead so all men would be raised from the dead.
But alas you have no historical proof. Also could you point me to some writings by this christ guy that show he predicted such a thing. But then again you have no proof on this resurrection thing in the first place.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 294 of 722 (683321)
12-09-2012 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by Faith
12-09-2012 4:55 PM


but far worse than any of that you're rejecting the only means to salvation.
Not really. I have no need for salvation. I am quite fine with myself and my life. The idea of eternal life has no appeal to me.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 301 of 722 (683329)
12-09-2012 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Faith
12-09-2012 5:56 PM


I reject Catholicism
A hundred years ago I wouldn't have had much trouble accepting Anglicanism as Christian but they've gone so liberal
Catchall for a bunch of false cults like Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Nope, not Christian.
Unitarian Universalism rejects the Deity of Christ and the gospel of salvation so they are not Christian, they are a heresy.
I think Nestorianism is too but although I read the description I'm not sure.
But what you think does not matter.
You are not the arbiter of who or what is a Christian. You are a walking fallacy.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 312 of 722 (683343)
12-09-2012 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 310 by Faith
12-09-2012 8:16 PM


Re: Again, I'm arguing for MAINSTREAM BASIC BIBLE CHRISTIANITY
What denomination of the Protestant version of Christianity are you?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 323 of 722 (683357)
12-09-2012 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by Faith
12-09-2012 8:39 PM


Re: Again, I'm arguing for MAINSTREAM BASIC BIBLE CHRISTIANITY
Again, your opinion is irrelevant
But yours is?
The pomposity is astounding.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 324 of 722 (683358)
12-09-2012 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by Faith
12-09-2012 8:31 PM


Re: Again, I'm arguing for MAINSTREAM BASIC BIBLE CHRISTIANITY
That didn't answer my question. But if you don't want to divulge your denomination that is fine.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 327 of 722 (683366)
12-09-2012 11:40 PM
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12-09-2012 11:26 PM


Re: Again, I'm arguing for MAINSTREAM BASIC BIBLE CHRISTIANITY
quote:
In March 2009, noting the rise of Calvinism in the United States, Time listed several Baptists among current Calvinist leaders.[5] Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, is a strong advocate of Calvinism, although his stand has received opposition from inside the Southern Baptist Convention.[6] John Piper, pastor at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, is one of several Baptists who have written in support of Calvinism.[6]
While the Southern Baptist Convention remains split on Calvinism,[7] there are a number of explicitly Reformed Baptist groups in the United States, including the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America,[8] the Continental Baptist Churches,[8] the Sovereign Grace Baptist Association of Churches,[8] and other Sovereign Grace Baptists.[9] Such groups have had some theological influence from other Reformed denominations, such as the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.[10] The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was also the source of the Trinity Hymnal, which was adapted for Reformed Baptist use.[11]
By the year 2000, Reformed Baptist groups in the United States totalled about 16,000 people in 400 congregations.
Seems a few denominations fit under that umbrella.
Seems to be a bit of a minority in Protestantism.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 353 of 722 (683451)
12-10-2012 5:16 PM
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12-10-2012 3:12 PM


Re: Causes of death and opportunities for relationship
People die. The Bible says that God killed them directly, but they may have died in acts of nature or circumstances of natural origin. Newborn babies are not accountable to anyone...if they die they die. Adults are another matter spiritually. Fact is, however, we all die.
You have gone beyond your typical psuedophilosophical woo and stepped into the bounds of offensive now.
It is ok for god to kill babies cuz, you know, they are just babies.
That is offensive to anyone with any sense of morals.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 414 of 722 (683588)
12-11-2012 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by Faith
12-11-2012 8:49 PM


Re: THE Church
Jesus denounced the false church which didn't yet exist
LOL
I guess this just says it all doesn't it

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 513 of 722 (684465)
12-17-2012 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 501 by jaywill
12-17-2012 10:00 AM


Re: But that is NOT Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution
The subtile mentions human races. That is a very significant place.
Where?
On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 620 of 722 (685396)
12-22-2012 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 604 by jaywill
12-20-2012 11:03 AM


Re: rule of war??? or not?
Years ago I was told that some serious venereal diseases entered into the human sphere from ANIMALS. This means that humans had sex with animals and introduced these venereal diseases into people.
School yard stories are not evidence.
You should research before you speak. Some venereal diseases came from consuming primates not fucking them.
Edited by Theodoric, : Sorry kid must have hit something before I posted

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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