Does prophecy support the Bible

Keith, a few things about prophecy Temporal issues
Irrelevant prophecy: "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Relevant prophecy: "The sun will not rise tomorrow"
Irrelevant prophecy: "On some day, the sun will not rise"Vagueness
Irrelevant prophecy: "Human technology will continue to increase"
Relevant prophecy: "Humans will invent a device which allows them to fly through the air inside it, faster than an eagle"
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Irrelevant prophecy: "Humans will invent a type of naval warship which can carry over 100 soldiers" (irrelevant because it is just expanding on technological advancement trends of the time)Rewording by the reader
Irrelevant prophecy: "In the future, people will fly through the sky on the backs of giant eagles." (eagles being reinterpreted by the reader to mean "airplanes")
Relevant prophecy: "In the future, people will fly through the sky inside self-powered craft."Reader's opinions inserted
Irrelevant prophecy: "The people of the world will be meaner to each other." (with the reader interpretting the people of the world as getting generally meaner)Self-fulfilling prophecies
Irrelevant prophecy: "My followers will always wear fruit on their heads." (if the person ends up having followers, they're going to want to live by their leader's ideals, and wear fruit on their heads; if not, the person will be lost into obscurity and no longer remembered. Thus, the relevance of the "prophecy" doesn't apply.)As for rebuilding the temple (i.e., bulldozing down Al-Aqsa mosque), the majority of people in Israel, last poll that was posted in Haretz (an Israeli daily) that I saw, actually even support an unconditional withdrawl from *all settlements*. The right wing Likud government that they currently have under Ariel Sharon - majorly pro-settlement, ultra nationalist, pro-orthodox, etc - has largely banned Israeli travel to the temple mount since the start of the Intifada. If the right-wing Israelis are willing to ban travel, what sort of Israelis are you thinking that want to plow down Al-Aqsa?? ------------------
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Relevant prophecy: Prophesied when all anyone knew about for money was gold and silver. There will come a time when money/exchange medium will be via marks and numbers worldwide.

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Ah. Now, where does it say that the money/exchange medium will be via marks and numbers worldwide?

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Relevant prophecy: There will come a time when it the nations of the world will view certain persons in one city of the world. This is a Biblical prophecy in Revelation, chapter 11.

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Ah. Before we go any further, are you referencing Rev. 11:4-6?------------------
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Ah. Now, where does it say that the money/exchange medium will be via marks and numbers worldwide?Revelation 13:16,17

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The beast causes all, both rich and poor to receive a mark or number on their right hand or forhead in order to buy or sell. (This is not a quote)

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You're right that it's not a quote. Here's a quote:"He required everyone--great and small, rich and poor, slave and free--to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name. [/quote]Now, I will ask again: Where in this does it state that the money/exchange medium itself will be via marks and numbers (as opposed to what it quite obviously states: that noone could buy or sell anything without having the mark)?

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Ah. Before we go any further, are you referencing Rev. 11:4-6?

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No. See Revelation 11:8,9

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Sounds like the lynching of two people claiming to be prophets, in Jerusalem. How is this a non-vague, fulfilled prophecy?------------------
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Buz, if it's not clear to people reading it, how on Earth can you claim it's not a vague prophecy? I can't even tell what you're possibly insinuating for the second one, for example.------------------
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You are still to receive the mark of the beast Rei, you haven't yet received it. Our current system is however just a precursor to what will happen. Can you not see the similarities between a barcode and 666 and the cashless society we are moving to ? What will you do when the next logical step is to replace the credit card with a microchip ?

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You don't put barcodes on people - you put barcodes on objects. Barcodes store a unique inventory id number. This number could be 666 on at most one object, since it must be unique. Only a tatoo or other mark, to signify that you're able to buy or sell stuff (as the bible says will happen - not that the mark itself will be money) would require a single universal symbol.I will stress this again: The mark signifies that you're permitted to buy or sell - not that the mark acts as money. You're adding to the prophecy on your own accord.A computer chip does not leave a mark, unless you're referring to a scar (which would not be what allowed the buying or selling - noone would refuse to scan you if you can't see a scar). A computer chip to *permit* you to buy or sell would be completely illogical - far more work than it's worth.By the way, what maker of computer chips requires people to worship their image and performs miraculous signs? ------------------
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I agree!! That's why I said they returned in 1948 and were attacked yet miraculously defended themselves and took even more land. They were attacked again in 1967 and this time defeated their attackers in only six days.

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Pure propaganda. I recommend you read some of my comments to Percy on this subject, where I reference remarks from some of the writings of Israeli generals involved in the conflict. In short, Egypt had 80,000 troops who were not on combat-ready status on the border. Israel had 3 divisions, including 5 armored brigades, all high tech. The self-defense myth was created well after the war; you don't launch a 3-division attack without months of extensive planning and mobilization beforehand.------------------
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Side tangent about the Six Day War moved to its own thread:The Six Day War: Right Or Wrong?All participants who want to join are welcome. I recommend that any posters who wish to join read the initial post before responding. Buzsaw is especially invited to the new thread, I would love his input.------------------
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