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Author Topic:   Does prophecy support the Bible
Brian
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Message 17 of 191 (68374)
11-21-2003 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by keith63
11-21-2003 3:17 PM


Hi, this was from me:
Israel has never and will never inhabit the land promised to them by God, from the Nile to the Euphrates no less, care to explain how that little gem hasn't worked out?
It is found in Genesis 15:18: On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates
This is a failed prophecy, or do you want to give it another few thousand years?
The thing is about prophecy it isnt about predicting anything, it is simply speaking words for God, a prophet is a proclaimer, not a predictor.
Another point is that a prophecy really should take place within the prophet's lifetime, otherwise how does the community recognise a false prophet?
One of the criteria for recognising a true prophet was that his words should come to pass, also he/she has to prophesise in YHWH's name. A prophecy that will happen thousands of years after the entire population of the time is dead is pointless. Why does God want to give a message to a community that will not be around to witness its passing, be honest with yourself.
Also, how do you know that Jesus wasn't lying when he prophesised this, God sends false prophest to test his people. Also God can tell a lie to a prophet to test his people, and then there's the added problem of the prophet who speaks presumptuously. A prophet can have the words of God and add some of his own which do not come to pass.
On the face of it, in comparison with some of Jeremiah's prophecies or Isaiah's, Jesus' prophecies are abysmal, I really think we need to put him in the false prophet category.
Brian.

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4989 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 179 of 191 (69248)
11-25-2003 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Coragyps
11-25-2003 4:20 PM


HI,
But you miss the point of prophecy. Prophets speak the word of God, when this was spoken there were no Arabic numbers YET but there would be when the prophecy was fulfilled! LOL
Wonderful thing this prophecy, God knows the future he knows that there will be such a thing as 666 in the future. Oops, I think I just gave Zealot an apologetic, ah well it is about time he had a decent apologetic anyway.
Brian.

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