Does prophecy support the Bible

http://members.aol.com/productupc/Have a look under the Questions page. 666.Sad thing Athiests will deny anything dubious about it! Cashless society... 666 ... random probability I tell ya.

http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.htmlThere is a link to an interview with the inventor of the Bar Code. I think we are now eventually reaching an age where a cashless society is indeed a possibility.Scoff if you want, I care little. If you can't see the resemblance then who really cares anyway right ?

Hehe Buzz, how long you been on these forums ? PS: You know you're doing well, when they start arguing about the true definition of the topic you are discussing and choose the most obscure option. Then the "but what if" hypotheticals startIm off for a logn while . Whoo hoo sunny skies and beach for close to 2 months! Hehe, keep up the fight Stay well..Z[This message has been edited by Zealot, 11-24-2003]

Consequent, before you lost your faith, did you not do some sort of Bible study ? No offense, but you ask some simple questions sometimes I would have expected you to know really.This age: the word "generation" or "age" is here being used for the men of this age.I can see if you don't buy this explanation, because you're a sceptic and want to find flaw with the Bible to support your beliefs, but did you not know this ?

LOL, When you read poetry Dan, you quite often have to understand more than is written, when you discuss science, it all should be pretty straight forward I dont claim to know about poetry, because I don't know the first thing about it! Perhaps you should do the same about the Gospel Try take Jesus's parables as straight forward, see if you can make head or tail of those seeds [This message has been edited by Zealot, 11-24-2003]

What you think ?"And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. " C'mon Dan. I'm sure you can work it out if you concentrate

You are still to receive the mark of the beast Rei, you haven't yet received it. Our current system is however just a precursor to what will happen. Can you not see the similarities between a barcode and 666 and the cashless society we are moving to ? What will you do when the next logical step is to replace the credit card with a microchip ?

C'mon Dan, I'm sure every now and then you lose your mind and will believe anything ... Does poetry not have a meaning ?

There is always a correct interpretation. Many interpretations of the same poem and considered 'valid', but only one is correct.I'm tempted to follow the "I wont take a step back" approach in this case, but then what is the point of entering discussion ?The Bible consists of literal as well as figurative forms of speach. Indeed the Hebrew word was written in such a fashion as to make it easier to remember by the oral tradition.Thus we have to choose what we believe to be literal and what is figurative.Clearly a parable is figurative, a metaphor. Not a collection of pretty words, but often like a poem, you need to study the author of the poem before you can truely understand his words. This is the essense of Christ's Word.Thus we have to go through the Bible and see what is intended to be literal and figurative.Take Luke 5 vs 36-37 - figurative36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. 37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.The Mosaic Laws - litteralMany prophesies are metaphors , I believe you will find many such in the book of Revelation.So when we deal with a prophesy, we have to be willing to consider atleast the figurative meaning.The word in question is 'generation'Strictly today it is used to refer to a specific generation (ie: 3rd, 4th), and often when done, the generation is mentioned. However it is also often used to refer to a type of people, not limited by age.eg:PS 102vs80"This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD. "PS 112vs2
"His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. "PR 30vs8
"There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother. "Mat23vs33
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? "Mat 24vs36
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. "Mark 9vs19
"He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.""generation" is often used not to refer to the litteral 'generation' (parent and offspring), but rather (as shown above) a type of people. The interpretation would be valid, but not neccesarily correct.Z

The Bible is perfect for me. What gave you this idea ? The 666 numbers association with commerce is the prophecy. The cashless society is simply the medium that allows the prophecy to be fulfilled.

Hehe, if you say so I guess.

Any responses to the rest of my post or is this it ?

What am I pretending ? Please clarify. Which part are you having difficulty understanding ?Z

I'm sure if you asked the authors, they could do that though Can I give you the ONE correct interpretation of the Bible ? Probably not.
I know I am not 100% correct. Indeed there are verse's I am unsure about.
I recognise and acknowlege what I do not know. Indeed in the book of Revelation there are
many verse's I don't know what the author means. I dont think we are intended to know what they
mean until it closer to the time.This is much the same way (as discussed earlier) the Jews would have had little understanding
regarding Hosea's statement 6 vs 2-32 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.Only after Christs death and ressurection would this have made much sense.In the same way there are indeed verses we already understand, as oppose to verses such asRev 4 vs 6-7
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne,
and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast
was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.Do to the nature of the book , an interpretation of this would be substantially more difficult as it has not
happened yet no ?Tell me, how would someone living before the invention of the bar code have any much of an idea what Paul was talking
about regarding the number of the beast and commerce ? Now however as the prophecy unfolds, it becomes much clearer what
the author meant.Z

Nope. It does not. Indeed I stated the following."The cashless society is simply the medium that allows the prophecy to be fulfilled. " The prophecy has not YET been fulfilled Paul. It is in the process of being fulfilled and all the signs are there. Much as good are barcoded (666) and as we move to a cashless society, we will be eventually be limited to commerce through the use of a debit/credit card. Once this is in place, and all information about a person (debit card, library card, Driver ID ect) is stored on a single card (for simplicity sakes) security problems will arise.All this is already happening.There is already great talk of microchip implants ( we already see them in animals ). With bluetooth and GPS, I dont see a future where every human does not have a chip in them. The benefits of human inplants are substantial. Imagine a crime occuring and you can pinpoint the precise location of a suspected criminal at the time of the crime. A person suffers a heart attack, the microchip detects it, and contact the ambulance service, all without the patiest having to lift a telephone. Every time a child gets abducted, its just more incentive to track the location of children.Not where you expected to be? | Information Systems & TechnologyThe link you need to see is the eery correlation between 666 and the barcode. The rest, you can ignore if you so please.Z