The C.C.O.I. (Christian Cult Of Ignorance) and Willful Ignorance

Of course I question the Nicene Creed.Real worship is what you do, not what you say.

Sheesh Phat. You are still willfully lying to yourself it seems as well as conflating wisdom with bullshit. Okay. Explain how that is done or could be known? You are just bending over kissing your ass and spouting nonsense. How do you determine that you are communing with God or getting a glimpse of God instead of just a con man, liar, carny pitchman or bad burrito?

How exactly do you know? How do you differentiate between the Holy Spirit and a Bad Burrito? Well. that is just another example of you lying and your dishonesty as usual. I do not deny God as you know.Born again is another of the Carny Con jobs it seems. How do you know you are born again? Why does it seem that those who are Born Again can never be honest?Have you ever read the Bible Faith. You know that the Bible itself says that Adam and Eve did not lose the ability to communicate with God when they disobeyed. Why must you always misrepresent what the Bible actually says Faith?

Once again you simply avoid answering the question. Actually it's possible to test to see if it was a bad burrito so that can be checked.The question is "How do you tell that what you feel is caused by the Holy Spirit?"What tests do you do? Of course I have read the Bible and yes there are lots of instances in the Bible stories about people who thingk the know God but in most cases the story goes on to show they don't know God. But the stories are usually a matter of personal presence, that God is physically there.The more common story is of the person struggling to figure out what to do.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Learn to READ Phat.If you created the characters and had foreknowledge of the end then you are responsible for what is done.

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If GOD is the creator, GOD creates everyone.

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If GOD then chooses only some of those She creates and condemns the others, then GOD creates only to punish.

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If GOD foreknows the results and still goes on to create folk, then GOD creates only to punish.

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Like so many it seems you tend to pick one line out of a series and try to deal with it without the context of the whole.

Correct.

That is irrelevant in this case since the person did not create with foreknowledge of the outcome the sibling.The issue in this case is the act of creation.

You keep returning to "communion".How does someone know when they are in communion with God and not just a bad burrito or Satan?

You keep returning to "communion".How does someone know when they are in communion with God and not just a bad burrito or Satan?

Kinda like saving Tink? Close you mind real tight and repeat "I believe in communion with Ged; I believe in communion with Ged ..."?

And what evidence do you have that J. M. Barrie was not also inspired by God or that Paul was not inspired by Satan?

So women keeping silent in Church, Jesus returning during Paul's lifetime and the temple devoted to Unnamed Gods was intended to be for the God of Abraham (who was pretty well know at the time) were inspired by the Holy Spirit?

As Paul grew older (and also true of all the early Apostles) they realize that the end of time was not gonna happen as Jesus said it would, during their lifetime.They had to scramble and change the message they had been marketing. It was one of the first major crisis cause total revision of the shpiel.I would not call the To the Unknown Gods gambit arrogant but it was definitely inspired. I just see no reason to think it was inspired by the Holy Spirit.And politeness in church does not seem to related to Paul's position but rather specifically to what women can do. You need to understand the context of Talmudic discourse. I Judaism the service is not led by the Rabbi but by the congregation. It very much a tradition of constant discussion, dispute and argument over meanings often with no resolution.So if not all that Paul wrote was inspired by the Holy Spirit what criteria should be used to judge what is inspired and what is just bad burrito?

Sure, he created a story that has stood the test of time and still brings in royalties and funding to Great Ormond Street Hospital.That seems a better example of inspired work than anything Paul wrote.On Inspired by the Holy Spirit you said:

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I believe that the criteria should include the intentions of the speaker, the context of where it was said and to whom it was being said, the time and culture within which it was being said, and the consensus of the class and/or readers whom are discussing the writing.

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If we include the intent of the speaker then does that not supersede outside inspiration?Edited by AdminPhat, : fixed broken quote

Stop for a moment.Remember that there are major differences between what the four Gospels say Jesus preached.Second, Paul is marketing a religion while Jesus was born, raised and died a Jew.